Charley B

Yup. But don't worry about it. We understand.

Ed Hughes

Without the 911 and its resulting income, there wouldn't be a 928. Trust me, they each have different missions, and each have a place in the (in one case, My) garage.

bigs

Whoa! And you spelled it right!

dr bob

Heresy some may say, but it was the 924 and to some extent the subsequent 944/968 program that rescued the company financially at a time when the 911 sales were seriously lagging and the 928 was just coming to serious development. The 914 (in the US) and the Boxter have also been, and the Cayenne is now the moneymaker at Porsche. There are more than a few specialty and limited-production models that the factory has sold below cost, most of them 911 derivatives. The 959 program jumps to my mind as a good example. However, each of the specialty models bolstered sales of the street cars and therefore there was net money made.

On the wide butt 911 look-- It looks real muscular but it's a bit of a disaster in the wind tunnel. The cars are a lot slipperier when the sides are smooth. The big butt look only comes as the factory adds power and needs to adjust the rear stance for it without inventing a whole new model that's actually designed for the new muscles. It's hard for me to decide whether the GTS rear is wider for the power or because the stylists felt the need for a fanny lift.

SwayBar

Nonetheless, that 996 S looks much better than any 928, and I'm not a fan of 996's (..except GT3's) nor ragtops.

cobalt

Actually it is a 997 S but what the heck. If you want a real fat a$$ 911 take a good look at the 997 GT3RS awesome car with a big butt. I think the GTS flairs were nothing more than a cosmetic upgrade. they claim they only widen th track by 1" per side. I happen to like the flairs although they do create drag and limit top speed.

I might be a bit biased but I still think the earlier turbos had the nicest butts of teh 911's, maybe not the biggest.

pewter82

actually the 993 variant rescued the 911 sales. The 964 (although a great car and worth loads now) was lagging a bit in sales, not due so much to itself, but economics. the 993 pricing and newer design internals brought back alot of PO's and brought in new buyers as well.

This is a synopsis of my current study on these cars, from books that are available...not my 1st hand knowledge.

jason

cobalt

Actually in 2 ways, the 993 although heavily based on the 964 and really only differed cosmetically and by the updated multi link rear suspension, was manufactured using new assembly line techniques borrowed from the Japanese. This cut manufacturing costs significantly. The early 90's was a bad time for sports car manufacturers in general. SUV's were the hot ticket and sports cars were on their way out. When Porsche introduced the 993 it sold for $5k less than the previous 964 model, had more power and new lines. It wasn't until Porsche dropped the 968 and 928 line (unfortunately) that they started to show profits again. Production numbers and sales for 1994 were about the lowest in the companies history with a profit margin of almost nothing. The company changed drastically then and some say not for the better however, without these changes it would have gone out of business for sure.

Although quality is improving over the past few model changes, it dropped significantly from the days of the 964 and 928. These cars were the most stout of the Porsche line and can be seen when working on either model. They reflect the German manufacturing pride that made the car what it was that the Japanese had to work out of the equation in order to bring up profitability.

I guess they call this progress, in either case it kept the company alive and now we will see if cars like the Panamera and such will impress us as much as the earlier 911 and 928's did.

The_Remora

"I like big butts and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny
That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waste
And a round thing in your face
You get sprung..."

SwayBar

That was hard to tell from the back! I do like the 997, but still prefer the lines of the 993.

Nice pic, your car looks awesome!

pewter82

and they also cut out about 15% of there work force from management down to the assembly. the idea of a lean and mean self owned car company was the philosophy. I guess the 996 was in the minds of the company during those days as well...a new design. Some people have written that the 993 was just a stop gap car until the new 996 could be produced. I like to think it was a car that was the best of what a 911 aircooled could be.

sorry for the hijack of the thread....yes the C2 C4 have a phat ***!

jason

Shark Attack

Holy cow Ed-relax, huh... I can say for sure.. that 928 owners are a lot less up-tight than 911 owners. I had the pleasure of dealing with both... Im more at home with the 928 guys. In fact when I bought the 911, The guy said to me the day he delivered it. "don't go turning into one of those 911 guys on me". We all know the 911 and its variants are great cars.. But 928 guys just like to stir the pot.... its just what we do. I had to get rid of the 11 because my big feet could not operate the pedals... You have to have little feet to own that car... Now my wife giggles everytime she sees a guy driving 911....

heinrich

C4S is one of the sexiest, most amazingly POWERFUL looking Porsches ..... and the curves are all race heritage .. 935 ..... Drool.

heinrich

Yes. As a Porsche fan I find it tiresome, petty, low-class and a load of bull****. I have never seen other Porsche owners deride the 928 as much as I've seen 928 owners deride other Porsches.

SwayBar

Well said!