Jim bailey - 928 International

George has an excellent point.... the 997 Carrera S for example has 355 HP , weighs about 3150 lbs , is 175 inch long , 71.18 wide ,51.57 tall, is water cooled, has a five link rear suspension . fitted with power windows ,seats , good HVA system , ABS ,stability control.... top speed 182 MPH and has room for 4 people. The 928 is 175.08 inches long ! 72.28 wide and 50.47 inches tall. SO the same length and ONLY one inch wider and one inch lower . In short the "911" has evolved to where it now weighs as much as an early 928 and is the SAME SIZE !!! but has more power and a top speed of 182 MPH. Porsche already makes the 928 replacement the 997 and the Cayman S replaces the light sporty older 911. If Porsche makes a new V-8 coupe you have to figure that it would be much bigger ,weigh morethan the 997/928 otherwise why do it ? The 3.8 GT3 RSR normally aspirated makes nearly 500 HP that flat 6 cylinder rocks !

hacker-pschorr

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Jim bailey - 928 International

When Ron G. here owned his S-4 (now Tim's 200 MPH + Beast) I was following him down the 55 FWY when a late 911 Cab pulled up beside him and then I noticed that the 911 had grown so much that it made the 928 butt look small and light ! The mission statement for the 928 was to build the very best sports car that Porsche possibly could and they did....They built a car which they wanted to own as designers engineers. When the market place refused to accept it they evolved the "911" into a car the same size as the 928 . The first order of business is to survive and producing what the market demands is part of survival.

RyanPerrella

I need to read project 928 already...I think I would appreciate the car I have in the garage allot more then i currently do.

Jim bailey - 928 International

The book is a great read and the photos are priceless. The various styling execises also show what MIGHT have been. Just so there is no misunderstanding, I think the 928 was an exceptional car for it's time but by 1995 it was 20 year old technology, now it is 30 years old ! Love your car for what it is. If it makes you smile that is what it is all about !

928ntslow

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RyanPerrella

Jim,

I guess we share the same sentiments. I do appreciate what the car was, but it is by no means state of the art at the present time. My biggest reason for wanting to sell was the exterior styling. It just looks old, as it should as you say its going on 30 years. So I think i am learning to accept its exterior styling, I like the interior, and with a boosted 928 you then really have modern, near supercar performance. At least in terms of acceleration. Handling, well i dont know there, with some new sway bars, that may sway my opinion in that dpeartment as well. Although i really dont have any complaints with that either.

I just need to freshen up my interior add a turbo and if that dosent put a smile on my face, then i dont think anything will. And I really cant and dont really want to have $50,000 cash tied up in a car. But with the 928, i can have looks, although dated, a nice comfortable leather lined cabin, and supercar performance. I think i need to settle with what i got. Really, anything that would be better then that is going to cost ALLOT more. If and when i can ever afford a Ferrari 550, maybe thats what i should replace the 928 with. I was thinking of a 996, but i would only be able to afford an early one and with that i would be gambling on engine failures. I would then want a supercharger for that but those kits are $10,000 and they would still probably be 150HP shy of a bosted 928 GT. I think i'll stick with the 928.

And as for a modern, new Porsche 928, well thats going to easily top 100K, probably 150K for the top end, highly spec'd version. I'n another 20 years maybe i'll pick one of those up.

yellowline

Easy there, the '87 951 was the first car with standard dual airbags.

I vote for the current 911 as the new 928. It even leaks oil from seals like the old cars, what a nifty touch.

928autobahndreamer

I can't believe that nobody has mentioned the Merc SLR. That is a brilliantly fast luxo GT. (I just love the Top Gear drives of that thing.) It is easy to drive and is an auto like most of the 928s. Very advanced technology with a full carbon fiber tub and a kick *** supercharged V8.

Rob Edwards

Have you seen an SLR up close? They show up regularly at the local car shows, and a friend's father has one in Cancun. Man, they're just as hideous in person as they are in print. All nose, tight cabin, more grilles and slits than a catfish in a knifefight. (All of which are probably both necessary and functional, but still.....) They look like a big marital aid (which I guess, in some sense, they are!)

617 hp will cure a lot of sins, but they still look pretty sin-y.

Marine Blue

It's pretty obvious what Porsche has done to the 911, hard to deny considering the dimensions, weight, overall increase in size etc it is a GT. As Jim already pointed out, it is nearly identical in proportion to the 928 but the engine is in the rear. Funny thing is that Porsche pulled off exactly what they wanted in the end but they had to use the old 911 badging and keep the engine in back to make it successful.

IcemanG17

This a very good point....how many auto companies today have the time and resources to build a clean sheet car exactly how they want...other than Bugatti...one that they can actually sell a decent amount..... Everything today is driven my marketing & sales guys...not the engineers like it was during the 928 design period....its not about building the best car anymore, its about building the car that sells the best....

So there never will be another true "928"....even if Porsche builds a 2 door GT with that name...it started life as a 4 door...not a clean sheet of paper

hacker-pschorr

RyanPerrella

I would be very happy replacing my 928 with this beauty

http://www.granturismoisback.com/

RyanPerrella

I am doing the Maserati car configurator, and you can choose from about 20 really pretty exterior colors, you can choose 6 different colors for the brake calipers. When choosing the interior, you dont just pick black or tan or whatever, you have abour12-15 leather color choices, but you dont just pick one. You pick one for the seats, one for the headline, one carpet color, dash color, seat belts color, trim option of aluminum or wood etc, steering wheel color, on and on. And I think these are about $100K

I LOVE THIS THING!

Edit: Upon further review, although I love the lines, the interior and the engien, its a wopping 4150 lbs, and only at present available with an auto box. I do remember reading that Maserati was not going to put a manual in the thing. But BMW said that as well with the new M5.

Still 4150 is pretty chunky, and the performance numbers arent any better then a 928 GT/GTS 0-60 5.2, top speed 177 (A bit faster then a stock GTS)