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Old 10-08-2011, 01:29 AM
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Most Mac users would have flocked to the Next to follow Jobs, but the lack of a floppy drive was just too unthinkable at the time.
Old 10-08-2011, 01:43 AM
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No problem - PLI (and others) made an external SCSI floppy that even used the ED discs and the slabs came with an internal floppy.

I think the biggest problem was that NeXT systems were just insanely expensive at the time.

James

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Old 10-08-2011, 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by mickster
IIx that is obscure!
I've got a few, as well as the IIfx, the wicked fast computer.

Edison didn't invent the light bulb, not the basic concept, he made it work.

Microsoft didn't invent Ctrl-Alt-Del, they just made it popular.
Old 10-08-2011, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by RKD in OKC
Steve Jobs had the vision of what the customer needed, not what the customer wanted.
His focus was on aesthetics instead of price.
He challenged people to excellence with the idea that what they were doing would change the world.
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Old 10-08-2011, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by jheis
No problem - PLI (and others) made an external SCSI floppy that even used the ED discs and the slabs came with an internal floppy.

I think the biggest problem was that NeXT systems were just insanely expensive at the time.

James
I remember walking into a store in Manhattan that sold NeXT (I remember it was some weird retail arrangement) and took a look at the price tag. More than half of my tuition for a year at Columbia? No thank you!
Old 10-10-2011, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by RKD in OKC
Steve Jobs had the vision of what the customer needed, not what the customer wanted. ...
I think that's backward.

It could have been Steve singing "... Your debutante knows what you need, but I know what you want..."

Sometimes you don't know yourself until you get it the first time, then you know you've been waiting for it.
Old 10-12-2011, 07:00 PM
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Default Steve Jobs and a 928

Porsche 928 influenced Steve Jobs Mac design

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An interesting fact about the first Macintosh computer was that Steve Jobs wanted it to look like a Porsche 928. While the designer, James Ferris, thought the Mac should look like a Ferrari.
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Interesting fact:

Jobs owned a Porsche 928 at the time, most likely influencing his opinion. This caused much debate among the two of them, according to a report on Jalopnik via an account from Folklore.org. The website, Folklore.org, tells the development process of the Original Mac.

Andy Hertzfeld, a member of the original Apple development team, recalls the discussion in March 1981 during a late night at the office. "It's got to be different, different from everything else." said Jobs to James Ferris, Apple's director of Creative Services. “For some reason, they were talking about cars.” Hertzfeld recalls.

"We need it to have a classic look, that won't go out of style, like the Volkswagen Beetle", I heard Steve tell James.

"No, that's not right.", James replied. "The lines should be voluptuous, like a Ferrari.”

"Not a Ferrari, that's not right either", Steve responded, apparently excited by the car comparison. "It should be more like a Porsche!" referring to his Porsche 928.

“I thought it was kind of pompous to compare computers with sports cars, even metaphorically. But I was impressed with Steve's passion for elegance in the industrial design and his powers of discrimination continually amazed me as the design took shape.” Hertzfeld said.

Jobs recruited Jerry Manock, who led the industrial design efforts developing the Apple II. Manock found a talented designer, Terry Oyama, who helped extensively with the actual design efforts and drafting process.

Several iterations of the Apple II were proposed to the original Apple team. Jobs was not pleased with most of these. His thoughts on the first model, "It's way too boxy, it's got to be more curvaceous. The radius of the first chamfer needs to be bigger, and I don't like the size of the bezel. But it's a start." Hertzfeld, “I thought it was cute and attractive, looking a lot like an Apple II, but with a distinctive personality all its own.” I guess Jobs wanted it to look more like a Porsche, or more specifically the Porsche 928 which he probably loved.

The final design was released in February 1982. A small party was held to commemorate the event with the whole Apple team.

Steve Jobs, the Co-Founder and CEO of Apple Computers, has died. Jobs helped launch the computing revolution with Apple's early products, such as the Apple II. He helped market products like the iPod, iPhone, iMac, and anything with “i” in the name. He was instrumental in launching iTunes, creating a new digital music frontier. Steve Jobs is a major figure in the technology world and he will be greatly missed.
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Originally Posted by vanster
Steve Jobs and a 928

And an enzo.

(my Mac stable

Old 10-12-2011, 10:35 PM
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I liked it.
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Default New 928, and the 928 inspires Apple design!

Believe it or not - apparently YES. Steve Jobs had a 928.

See the article below

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/porsche-928/ke928.html

And here is a good article on the new ...928/9

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/porsche...e-ar33482.html

Enjoy!
Old 04-09-2012, 07:05 PM
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Default Steve Jobs used the Porsche 928 as inspiration for Mac design?

Read this on TopSpeed thought it was interesting. A 928 does have classic and timeless styling. Only design influence I can compare is the tail lights and screen. And possibly the uni-body concept of a 928. Any opinions?

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/porsche-928/ke928.html

October 5, 2011 was a very sad day for the American computer industry: Steve Jobs - the creator of the first commercially successful lines of personal computers, the Apple II series - passed away after losing his battle with a rare pancreatic cancer. As one of the few, true innovators of our time, Jobs took his knowledge and creativity and built up a company that is now worth about $1 trillion.

Steve Jobs did many great things for the technological world, so as homage to a great man, we thought it would be interesting to talk a little about one of his first projects. You see, the first Macintosh computer Jobs designed was actually influenced by his Porsche 928.

Andy Hertzfeld, a member of the original Apple development team, recalls the discussion in March 1981 during a late night at the office. "It’s got to be different, different from everything else." said Jobs to James Ferris, Apple’s director of Creative Services. “For some reason, they were talking about cars,” Hertzfeld recalls.

"We need it to have a classic look, that won’t go out of style, like the Volkswagen Beetle", I heard Steve tell James.

"No, that’s not right.", James replied. "The lines should be voluptuous, like a Ferrari.”

"Not a Ferrari, that’s not right either", Steve responded, apparently excited by the car comparison. "It should be more like a Porsche!" referring to his Porsche 928.

“I thought it was kind of pompous to compare computers with sports cars, even metaphorically. But I was impressed with Steve’s passion for elegance in the industrial design and his powers of discrimination continually amazed me as the design took shape.” Hertzfeld said.

The design for the first Mac was released in February 1982. Jobs had worked tirelessly, attempting to produce the best Porsche-like design for the computer.

The world has lost a true inspiration. Steve Jobs will be missed.
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I thought he was inspired by an ENZO.
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...ginal-mac.html
Old 04-09-2012, 07:21 PM
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He apparently had an Enzo but from this article and a few others I've read it refers to his Porsche 928. I was more curious on what did they take from the 928 and applied to the mac.
Old 04-09-2012, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jbturtle
He apparently had an Enzo but from this article and a few others I've read it refers to his Porsche 928. I was more curious on what did they take from the 928 and applied to the mac.
One of the nicest 928's is kermit.
Kermit is a frog.
Apple used Frog design.
Old 04-09-2012, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by danglerb
One of the nicest 928's is kermit.
Kermit is a frog.
Apple used Frog design.
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