Fenders replaced
11-19-2002, 05:12 PM
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Fenders replaced
Through my own stupididty I missed the fact that the numbers on the front fenders on my new 928 do match the rest of the car. Took to repair shop and they said it was done so professionally that the only way to tell was from the numbers, no one would notice otherwise. How much does this hurt the value?
11-19-2002, 06:08 PM
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My fender number has ROW Z's in it, but the correct serial number. Is this true for everyone?
11-19-2002, 06:41 PM
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Mine is the same. I read that it was normal. The frames all had the ZZZ on them, because those are generic. When the rest of the "stuff" gets added, it becomes country/region specific.
11-20-2002, 03:16 PM
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Do you have any idea what it cost to replace the fenders on your car in the first place? My dad's looking at a '96 with fender damage to both sides so I'm curious.
These fenders are bolt on right?; so the job should be very straight forward, I'm hoping..
I'm talking about the front fenders by the way..
These fenders are bolt on right?; so the job should be very straight forward, I'm hoping..
I'm talking about the front fenders by the way..
11-20-2002, 03:28 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by Scott5:
<strong>Do you have any idea what it cost to replace the fenders on your car in the first place? My dad's looking at a '96 with fender damage to both sides so I'm curious.
These fenders are bolt on right?; so the job should be very straight forward, I'm hoping..
I'm talking about the front fenders by the way..</strong><hr></blockquote>
I don't know what the fenders on a '96 looked like, since there are no known examples. 928 Production ended with the '95 model-year.
A good yardstick for used part prices is 928 International in Anaheim, Ca, at 928intl.com. Some others have mentioned place in Phoenix called 20th Street Auto or similar (somebody jump in here...) While the installation is bolt-on, you get to remove the bumpers and all that front stuff to get the fenders off and on. Not a disaster, just a bit more work than fenders on a '72 Nova.
And remember that these are aluminum parts. They can be straightened if the demage is not severe. The paint process is a little more involved that with steel parts, too.
Good luck!
<strong>Do you have any idea what it cost to replace the fenders on your car in the first place? My dad's looking at a '96 with fender damage to both sides so I'm curious.
These fenders are bolt on right?; so the job should be very straight forward, I'm hoping..
I'm talking about the front fenders by the way..</strong><hr></blockquote>
I don't know what the fenders on a '96 looked like, since there are no known examples. 928 Production ended with the '95 model-year.
A good yardstick for used part prices is 928 International in Anaheim, Ca, at 928intl.com. Some others have mentioned place in Phoenix called 20th Street Auto or similar (somebody jump in here...) While the installation is bolt-on, you get to remove the bumpers and all that front stuff to get the fenders off and on. Not a disaster, just a bit more work than fenders on a '72 Nova.
And remember that these are aluminum parts. They can be straightened if the demage is not severe. The paint process is a little more involved that with steel parts, too.
Good luck!
11-20-2002, 03:50 PM
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Opps - Thanks for catching that Dr. Bob - I ment a '86.
Seeing as the individual who's selling the car is including new, already purchased fenders with the sale of the car, I'm assuming someone's already determined that the damage to beyond a simple straightening... but it's certainly worth another look before dismantling the front end!
Seeing as the individual who's selling the car is including new, already purchased fenders with the sale of the car, I'm assuming someone's already determined that the damage to beyond a simple straightening... but it's certainly worth another look before dismantling the front end!
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If needed, I have a right side fender of off an '85 shark I can let go for cheap if you need it. The fender is the mouldingless option. No dents no dings.
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11-20-2002, 09:12 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by Scott5:
<strong>Opps - Thanks for catching that Dr. Bob - I ment a '86.
Seeing as the individual who's selling the car is including new, already purchased fenders with the sale of the car, I'm assuming someone's already determined that the damage to beyond a simple straightening... but it's certainly worth another look before dismantling the front end!</strong><hr></blockquote>
If the fenders are coming with the car, the cost factor is kind of moot.
What does the rest of the car look like? Know also that '86 is a split year for the 928. Later cars (vin >1000) have the suspension and brake upgrades that are standard on the S4 cars introduced for 1987. A more desirable car, especially if you are a fan of the S2 body style.
Some other considerations include the color of the car, and your ability to match the paint when you shoot the new fenders. As others have or will point out, the cost of a full repaint can be a little daunting. Folks here talk about $3k+ for a good job, and that can go up when you consider that you want to replace all the window seals and such, side moldings if you have them, sunroof panel seals, door gaskets, etc., as part of the renewal process.
As you are shopping, consider the market prices for cars already in good shape. Factor in the cost of installing those fenders and getting them perfectly lined up, the repaint and parts costs, then add in a few $k to get all the mechanicals perfect on that particular car. You will go find a 928-qualified mechanic or shop to do a full inspection, of course, and that will give you the tip of the 'make-it-perfect' iceberg dollars.
Unfortunately, the perception of the value of these cars is pretty low, driven by the partial reality that repair costs are way high. Cars get into the hands of folks who can't believe or can't afford to maintain a $60k performance car, stuck instead on the idea that they are driving a car that only cost them $10k or less. So the cars deteriorate due to lack of proper care, and the cheap-to-buy, expensive-to-own prophesy is too often fulfilled.
If you are truly interested in owning a 928, look around for a well-maintained car. Be ready to pay a little more for that closer-to-perfect car, and come out big dollars and hours ahead. Some will say that you should budget some percentage of purchase cost for first-year stuff, but there's a missing component in that recommendation: spend more to buy a great car and less to restore it. You'll still end up fixing stuff to make it right, but not nearly what you might think you are saving when you buy a 'project'.
Good luck o you and your dad, hope you make a wise choice.
ps-- there are more than a few wonderful web resources on these cars. You have landed on one of the best here at rennlist, but some history and info on the cars comes from places like Phil Tong's excellent website at <a href="http://www.928s4vr.com," target="_blank">www.928s4vr.com,</a> and the slew of linked 928 info sites you'll find there.
<strong>Opps - Thanks for catching that Dr. Bob - I ment a '86.
Seeing as the individual who's selling the car is including new, already purchased fenders with the sale of the car, I'm assuming someone's already determined that the damage to beyond a simple straightening... but it's certainly worth another look before dismantling the front end!</strong><hr></blockquote>
If the fenders are coming with the car, the cost factor is kind of moot.
What does the rest of the car look like? Know also that '86 is a split year for the 928. Later cars (vin >1000) have the suspension and brake upgrades that are standard on the S4 cars introduced for 1987. A more desirable car, especially if you are a fan of the S2 body style.
Some other considerations include the color of the car, and your ability to match the paint when you shoot the new fenders. As others have or will point out, the cost of a full repaint can be a little daunting. Folks here talk about $3k+ for a good job, and that can go up when you consider that you want to replace all the window seals and such, side moldings if you have them, sunroof panel seals, door gaskets, etc., as part of the renewal process.
As you are shopping, consider the market prices for cars already in good shape. Factor in the cost of installing those fenders and getting them perfectly lined up, the repaint and parts costs, then add in a few $k to get all the mechanicals perfect on that particular car. You will go find a 928-qualified mechanic or shop to do a full inspection, of course, and that will give you the tip of the 'make-it-perfect' iceberg dollars.
Unfortunately, the perception of the value of these cars is pretty low, driven by the partial reality that repair costs are way high. Cars get into the hands of folks who can't believe or can't afford to maintain a $60k performance car, stuck instead on the idea that they are driving a car that only cost them $10k or less. So the cars deteriorate due to lack of proper care, and the cheap-to-buy, expensive-to-own prophesy is too often fulfilled.
If you are truly interested in owning a 928, look around for a well-maintained car. Be ready to pay a little more for that closer-to-perfect car, and come out big dollars and hours ahead. Some will say that you should budget some percentage of purchase cost for first-year stuff, but there's a missing component in that recommendation: spend more to buy a great car and less to restore it. You'll still end up fixing stuff to make it right, but not nearly what you might think you are saving when you buy a 'project'.
Good luck o you and your dad, hope you make a wise choice.
ps-- there are more than a few wonderful web resources on these cars. You have landed on one of the best here at rennlist, but some history and info on the cars comes from places like Phil Tong's excellent website at <a href="http://www.928s4vr.com," target="_blank">www.928s4vr.com,</a> and the slew of linked 928 info sites you'll find there.
