Bully's BAD LUCK...
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Bully's BAD LUCK...
I just have to get this off my chest and need a shoulder to cry on so please bear with me...
As some of you may know, the Bully's in the shop to be race prepped. Wednesday my wrench phoned me and told me he's found Cup 1's with the right off-set that I can swop for my Cup 2's because he remembered I considered a wide body conversion at some stage. (remember my 'Plastic Surgery?' post a while ago?) Anyway, I was in the middle of something when his call came through and said "Sure, let's have a look". On Friday afternoon I popped into the shop to see how things are going and was absolutely horrified to find that he's already done the swop and the Cup 1's are already fitted to the Bully. The problem is they're much too wide so he tried to roll the rear fenders and messed 'em up something terrible! You will not find a better example of a back-yard job. It's so bad you'll get the hibby-jibbies if you had to see it and it's the last thing I expected from this quy. He didn't even consult me beforehand. To make it worse, his a personal friend.
So everything's a mess right now. I assure you, if Rennlist allowed profanity this thread would've looked a lot different. My aim was to win the local Porsche driver of the year championship in 2002. It would be the first time ever for a 928 and I was a strong favorite, but that's besides the point.
What am I to do? Right now Im so &%$#@ dissapointed I'll even consider cutting my losses and parting out, so if you're looking for trick bits for your Shark - Watch this space for bargains - you could get lucky and find some bargains here. I'm into this car for close to $25000 and everything looked like it was starting to come together. Now this...
Sorry for the long sad story,
Pierre.
As some of you may know, the Bully's in the shop to be race prepped. Wednesday my wrench phoned me and told me he's found Cup 1's with the right off-set that I can swop for my Cup 2's because he remembered I considered a wide body conversion at some stage. (remember my 'Plastic Surgery?' post a while ago?) Anyway, I was in the middle of something when his call came through and said "Sure, let's have a look". On Friday afternoon I popped into the shop to see how things are going and was absolutely horrified to find that he's already done the swop and the Cup 1's are already fitted to the Bully. The problem is they're much too wide so he tried to roll the rear fenders and messed 'em up something terrible! You will not find a better example of a back-yard job. It's so bad you'll get the hibby-jibbies if you had to see it and it's the last thing I expected from this quy. He didn't even consult me beforehand. To make it worse, his a personal friend.
So everything's a mess right now. I assure you, if Rennlist allowed profanity this thread would've looked a lot different. My aim was to win the local Porsche driver of the year championship in 2002. It would be the first time ever for a 928 and I was a strong favorite, but that's besides the point.
What am I to do? Right now Im so &%$#@ dissapointed I'll even consider cutting my losses and parting out, so if you're looking for trick bits for your Shark - Watch this space for bargains - you could get lucky and find some bargains here. I'm into this car for close to $25000 and everything looked like it was starting to come together. Now this...
Sorry for the long sad story,
Pierre.
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What a pisser, Fat is a damn fine car.
However being pragmatic about it, messy wheelarches will not stop you racing the car. It will mean you don't look as nice as you take the chequered flag! Obviously you have to resolve this with your guy but it won't slow you down on the track.
It's the gearbox that's the showstoper. Where did you get it?
Good luck and I hope you keep at it!
DaveW
However being pragmatic about it, messy wheelarches will not stop you racing the car. It will mean you don't look as nice as you take the chequered flag! Obviously you have to resolve this with your guy but it won't slow you down on the track.
It's the gearbox that's the showstoper. Where did you get it?
Good luck and I hope you keep at it!
DaveW
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Pierre,
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Not to pound salt into your open wounds, this is a lesson you probably already had... to be learned, yet again.
NEVER, EVER enter into business with family or friends.
Keep the friend, make him feel a little guilty if you want to. Keep the Bully, and repair as best you can. The Bully was a grand looking sHARk, and with work can look good again. You assumed certain risks, even the possibility a total loss when you committed the Bully to racing. This particular heartache was one no one -including your friend - foresaw or intended. **** happens, and we learn from it.
Now would be a good time to look for a parts car and salvage some fenders. Perhaps someone could do a foam casting and you could go fiber glass.
Hang in there.
John S. and Pattycakes
P.S. we still have the Bully Flicks on the net
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Not to pound salt into your open wounds, this is a lesson you probably already had... to be learned, yet again.
NEVER, EVER enter into business with family or friends.
Keep the friend, make him feel a little guilty if you want to. Keep the Bully, and repair as best you can. The Bully was a grand looking sHARk, and with work can look good again. You assumed certain risks, even the possibility a total loss when you committed the Bully to racing. This particular heartache was one no one -including your friend - foresaw or intended. **** happens, and we learn from it.
Now would be a good time to look for a parts car and salvage some fenders. Perhaps someone could do a foam casting and you could go fiber glass.
Hang in there.
John S. and Pattycakes
P.S. we still have the Bully Flicks on the net
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There has to be more to this story, I have raced in many different forms of racing in my 40 years of life and have never heard of a little sheet metal disfigurement to hold anyone back from going for the checkered flag or at least a few more points when need be. 
If it's really only badly rolled rear fenders and if looks are that important, fab some flairs and go racing.
Or
You could go the ease route and just I give it all up!
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My thoughts on racing and race cars;
(Not directed to any one person)
I personally like racing against racecar owners/drivers that think more of their paint job then the race.
This type of racers don't want a scratch on his or her show/racecar and are in most cases the ones that whine the most and the loudest about rough drivers. Being that they are in fear of a scuff much less a dent they will almost always give up their line in order to save their beloved show/race car. Most of the time all it takes to weed these guys out is a light bump going into a corner. They will get so mad that they quickly forget all about the job at hand and around them you will go
if that doesn't do it, rub door pannels with them one time 
A race car is a race car, not a show car
If you are not willing to swap a little paint or take a little nudge from behind from time to time you don't need to be out on the track when the real racing starts. Plain and simple
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Max
If it's really only badly rolled rear fenders and if looks are that important, fab some flairs and go racing.
Or
You could go the ease route and just I give it all up!
_________________________________________________
My thoughts on racing and race cars;
(Not directed to any one person)
I personally like racing against racecar owners/drivers that think more of their paint job then the race.
This type of racers don't want a scratch on his or her show/racecar and are in most cases the ones that whine the most and the loudest about rough drivers. Being that they are in fear of a scuff much less a dent they will almost always give up their line in order to save their beloved show/race car. Most of the time all it takes to weed these guys out is a light bump going into a corner. They will get so mad that they quickly forget all about the job at hand and around them you will go
if that doesn't do it, rub door pannels with them one time A race car is a race car, not a show car
If you are not willing to swap a little paint or take a little nudge from behind from time to time you don't need to be out on the track when the real racing starts. Plain and simple
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Max
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Thanx for the words of support guys. I guess I over-reacted a bit, but that's the way I get when my stuff are screwed around with...
My point is that my Shark is not just a regular car. I pay a lot more to have it taken care of properly and I expect to have it treated with a certain amount of respect by those who work on it. What's the point of fixing something whilst damaging something else in the process? How would you feel if you have to fix a chip, dent, scratch etc everytime you get your car back from the shop?
I get most upset when people don't show respect for the machines they work on. As far as I'm concerned palooka style has no place in a Porsche workshop and if the owner himself treats my car like a POS, what can I expect from the shop employees? (It's something that I've been complaining about for the longest time.)
It boils down to "Don't mess with my stuff!" and we're all like that, race car or no race car.
On the racetrack I don't mind swopping paint or being nudged here and there. In fact, I'm quite used to it in my bike racing endeavors. We bang fairings all the time, especially on the first lap or when you're fighting for position right down to the line. But that's different and the perogative is mine.
As for the fenders, they're so badly messed up that a wide body is the only proper fix now and that's not something that happens quickly. (My body shop told me it will take at least three months.) As for the champoinship, well I'm out of it already. If you miss one event you're history. - That's how competitive it is.
**** happens, I guess. I just don't like it to happen to me and I don't have to accept it either...
My point is that my Shark is not just a regular car. I pay a lot more to have it taken care of properly and I expect to have it treated with a certain amount of respect by those who work on it. What's the point of fixing something whilst damaging something else in the process? How would you feel if you have to fix a chip, dent, scratch etc everytime you get your car back from the shop?
I get most upset when people don't show respect for the machines they work on. As far as I'm concerned palooka style has no place in a Porsche workshop and if the owner himself treats my car like a POS, what can I expect from the shop employees? (It's something that I've been complaining about for the longest time.)
It boils down to "Don't mess with my stuff!" and we're all like that, race car or no race car.
On the racetrack I don't mind swopping paint or being nudged here and there. In fact, I'm quite used to it in my bike racing endeavors. We bang fairings all the time, especially on the first lap or when you're fighting for position right down to the line. But that's different and the perogative is mine.
As for the fenders, they're so badly messed up that a wide body is the only proper fix now and that's not something that happens quickly. (My body shop told me it will take at least three months.) As for the champoinship, well I'm out of it already. If you miss one event you're history. - That's how competitive it is.
**** happens, I guess. I just don't like it to happen to me and I don't have to accept it either...
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Maniac, I understand and agree with 99.9% of what you said in your last post.
All except for "As for the championship, well I'm out of it already"
The only thing holding you back from that championship is your pride in having a perfect looking car (in your eyes). A true racer would not let this affect the race schedule (JMO). If the chassis and drive train is race ready or is on schedule, there should be no hold back.
Go and race the car until the body shop is ready to work on it. Then only let them have it between races. If they are unwilling to work on these terms find another body shop or learn to do the body repairs yourself.
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Max
All except for "As for the championship, well I'm out of it already"
The only thing holding you back from that championship is your pride in having a perfect looking car (in your eyes). A true racer would not let this affect the race schedule (JMO). If the chassis and drive train is race ready or is on schedule, there should be no hold back.
Go and race the car until the body shop is ready to work on it. Then only let them have it between races. If they are unwilling to work on these terms find another body shop or learn to do the body repairs yourself.
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Max
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Pierre,
Time to do the fender flares. They will be much cheaper than adding the whole wide-body.
Check out these guys. They will deal on price and I've delt with them before.
<a href="http://www.allporsche.com/" target="_blank">http://www.allporsche.com/</a>
Jim Nowak
Time to do the fender flares. They will be much cheaper than adding the whole wide-body.
Check out these guys. They will deal on price and I've delt with them before.
<a href="http://www.allporsche.com/" target="_blank">http://www.allporsche.com/</a>
Jim Nowak
