928 digital dash and oil pressure!
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Over the weekend I decided to play around with the digital dash diagnostics. I found something very interesting.
Lately, I've been very cognisant of my oil pressure. My gage has only been going 4.5bar, and I've been curious if this is a gage problem or an actual oil pressure problem. While reading the digital dash diagnostics paper (if you have Jim's CDs it's on CD1 under "Other") I realised that I could get a digital readout of the oil pressure!![jumper](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/jumper.gif)
So after a little running around, I snapped this picture. Sorry for the lousy quality, but it was taken with my cell phone.
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What's interesting is that from 0 - ~3bar, the analog gage seems to be pretty accurate, but any higher than 3bar and the analog gage doesn't keep up. You can clearly see that I'm running 4.1bar, but the gage only shows about 3.5bar.
So, if you have a digital dash, you should be able to verify your gage's accuracy using this method. Have fun!
Lately, I've been very cognisant of my oil pressure. My gage has only been going 4.5bar, and I've been curious if this is a gage problem or an actual oil pressure problem. While reading the digital dash diagnostics paper (if you have Jim's CDs it's on CD1 under "Other") I realised that I could get a digital readout of the oil pressure!
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So after a little running around, I snapped this picture. Sorry for the lousy quality, but it was taken with my cell phone.
![](http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/oilpressure.jpg)
What's interesting is that from 0 - ~3bar, the analog gage seems to be pretty accurate, but any higher than 3bar and the analog gage doesn't keep up. You can clearly see that I'm running 4.1bar, but the gage only shows about 3.5bar.
So, if you have a digital dash, you should be able to verify your gage's accuracy using this method. Have fun!
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Had this problem with my 91, the gauge would not reach 5 bar, replaced the sender and problem solved.
Where the sender is located it collects a whole bunch of garbage through that pinhole, if you ever remove put it upside down on some paper and come back the next day and see what has drained out.
I like the diagnostic feature, very cool
Chris
Where the sender is located it collects a whole bunch of garbage through that pinhole, if you ever remove put it upside down on some paper and come back the next day and see what has drained out.
I like the diagnostic feature, very cool
Chris
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Chris, the problem is not the sender because they use the same sender. The problem is the gage. This method just shows the difference between the digital readout and the inaccuracy of analog gage. But if they had been the same... I would have looked at the sender.
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Originally Posted by Andrew Olson
Chris, the problem is not the sender because they use the same sender. The problem is the gage. This method just shows the difference between the digital readout and the inaccuracy of analog gage. But if they had been the same... I would have looked at the sender.
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So Andrew,
If your needle used to go higher but now it doesn't. Is that just a sign of age or something else?
Is there something that can be done to get it back up where it belongs?
If your needle used to go higher but now it doesn't. Is that just a sign of age or something else?
Is there something that can be done to get it back up where it belongs?
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Funny Mike! ![hiha](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/roflmao.gif)
Taking your question seriosly though, I can't say what the casue is. But for the fix, I think the only way to fix it would be to either physically adjust the needle or periodically do this test to see what the relationship is.
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Taking your question seriosly though, I can't say what the casue is. But for the fix, I think the only way to fix it would be to either physically adjust the needle or periodically do this test to see what the relationship is.
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the other thing you could do is replace the old sender and see if anything changes. Just a thought but an expensive one
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Originally Posted by shadowknight
I have a digital dash 89 s4 how do I turn on the diagnostics
EDITORS NOTE:
THE SPECIAL TOOL 9293 REQUIRED TO DO THESE TESTS IS VERY
DIFFICULT TO OBTAIN. I HAVE IT FROM A KNOWLEDGABLE
SOURCE THAT THIS TOOL JUST PROVIDES A JUMPER FROM PIN
13 TO PIN 5 OF THE CONNECTOR.
THE SPECIAL TOOL 9293 REQUIRED TO DO THESE TESTS IS VERY
DIFFICULT TO OBTAIN. I HAVE IT FROM A KNOWLEDGABLE
SOURCE THAT THIS TOOL JUST PROVIDES A JUMPER FROM PIN
13 TO PIN 5 OF THE CONNECTOR.
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Andrew,
According to the Porsche Service Guide, "Diagnosis of the Instrument Cluster", page 9, your analog gage should read about 4.5 bar, when the digital display reads 3.7-4.2 bar.
So, I'd say your analog gage at 3.5 bar is pointing too low.
According to the Porsche Service Guide, "Diagnosis of the Instrument Cluster", page 9, your analog gage should read about 4.5 bar, when the digital display reads 3.7-4.2 bar.
So, I'd say your analog gage at 3.5 bar is pointing too low.
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just pull the pointer off the oil pressure gauage and move it over... this kinda concept also works well when you have that silly antilock brake light on... remove the bulb.. Or when the brakes squeel... turn up the radio. all very good fixes
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Before taking a fork to the pointer, you might consider taking readings similar to as shown in the guide, from low to high, and again going from high to low. That would also give you a measure of the analog gage hysteresis.
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Originally Posted by borland
According to the Porsche Service Guide, "Diagnosis of the Instrument Cluster", page 9, your analog gage should read about 4.5 bar, when the digital display reads 3.7-4.2 bar.
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Originally Posted by borland
So, I'd say your analog gage at 3.5 bar is pointing too low.
Before taking a fork to the pointer, you might consider taking readings similar to as shown in the guide, from low to high, and again going from high to low. That would also give you a measure of the analog gage hysteresis.
Before taking a fork to the pointer, you might consider taking readings similar to as shown in the guide, from low to high, and again going from high to low. That would also give you a measure of the analog gage hysteresis.
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Originally Posted by Andrew Olson
Here's a question... What is the difference between Sensor 07 -"Oil Pressure Indication" (pg 9) and Sensor 08 - "Oil Pressure Sensor" (pg 10)? ![Confused](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif)
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