Annual Oil Change? That's BS isn't it?
05-18-2007, 05:45 PM
#76
Drifting
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: zürich, switzerland
Posts: 2,233
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
While we are discussing OT autos, I just changed the oil (10/40 semi synth) on my Mustang 5.0L after 15,000 miles and it is running fine.
No wonder you guys have to import so much oil
Marton
No wonder you guys have to import so much oil
Marton
06-03-2007, 06:40 AM
#77
Drifting
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: zürich, switzerland
Posts: 2,233
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
sorry to drag up an old thread, but just read....
Bronto wrote
My 81s drivers manual (original one that came with the car) states oil changes at 20,000 kilometers (slightly under 14K miles).
Maybe those over complex 32Vs need more frequent...
Marton
HTML Code:
I just received a new '79 manual and was reading through it, and it said 15,000 miles. I wonder if some were misprinted, what should have been 15,000 kilometers?
Maybe those over complex 32Vs need more frequent...
Marton
06-03-2007, 10:03 AM
#78
Three Wheelin'
Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
Add to that Volvo's that I've seen. Recently a 740 that went 15,000 miles between oil changes, car has 120ish on the odo. The pan looked like toxic waste, the pick up tube was clogged - engine is toast.
Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
Add to that newer (98ish - on) transmission with no dipstick or fill tube. In the manual it states "lifetime fluid". I guess to Audi, Mercedes, BMW, Volvo....."Lifetime" is about 100,000 miles - or when they are now starting to fail.
06-03-2007, 02:19 PM
#80
Under the Lift
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
I usually do about 8.5, 9 tops, and I let the oil drain for a long time. There's some amount left in the oil lines, oil cooler, heads and other nooks a crannies. Had the car been sitting for a long time? Did you drain the oil without running it at all beforehand? Did you measure the new oil level just after shutting the car down?
06-03-2007, 04:43 PM
#81
Rennlist Member
Originally Posted by H2
I changed the oil in my S4 last week. The manual says "about 2 US gallons" (8 qts) but it required 10 quarts. What gives?
Harvey
Harvey
Sure you used the correct dip stick?............put the drain plug back in?.........tighten the filter properly?
Seriously Harvey 10 quarts is too much.
06-03-2007, 06:44 PM
#83
Addict
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by Bill Ball
I usually do about 8.5, 9 tops, and I let the oil drain for a long time. There's some amount left in the oil lines, oil cooler, heads and other nooks a crannies. Had the car been sitting for a long time? Did you drain the oil without running it at all beforehand? Did you measure the new oil level just after shutting the car down?
So, I'm guessing it's between 1/4 and 1/2 quart too much.
I sure hate going to drain that out. Thanks, guys.
BTW, just curious, what is the downside of having a bit too much oil in your engine? I have to drain it even because it doesn't use oil.
Harvey
06-03-2007, 10:45 PM
#84
Under the Lift
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
Too much oil can blow oil seals. Do not drive the car yet. 1/4 to 1/2 quart too high is not that bad; however, if you really put in 10 qts you are about a quart over regardless of the dipstick reading.
You can drain 1/2 quart or so pretty easily by removing the filter. Some oil will drip around the filter as you unscrew it, but that is a rather limited amount - enough to make a mess, but no more than a ounce or so. Pull the filter off and empty it. Screw the filter back on and you will be a half quart closer and probably in the safe zone. But I would pull the FP fuse and crank the engine enough to refill the filter. Repeat the filter dump and you should be fine. Crank the motor some more to prime the filter and put the FP fuse back in.
Anyway, that's what I would do.
You can drain 1/2 quart or so pretty easily by removing the filter. Some oil will drip around the filter as you unscrew it, but that is a rather limited amount - enough to make a mess, but no more than a ounce or so. Pull the filter off and empty it. Screw the filter back on and you will be a half quart closer and probably in the safe zone. But I would pull the FP fuse and crank the engine enough to refill the filter. Repeat the filter dump and you should be fine. Crank the motor some more to prime the filter and put the FP fuse back in.
Anyway, that's what I would do.
06-03-2007, 11:36 PM
#85
Burning Brakes
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: IL
Posts: 1,166
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
There are alot of factors that change things:
1) An ordinary V8 holds 5 quarts, the porsche holds 10. This will effectively cut the wear on the oil in half. So its no wonder that porsche has a really high interval for oil changes.
2) Now synthetic companies like amsoil recommend a their 2 year/24,000 mile oil in ordinary 5 quart cars. Not bad but you still have to check the oil level and add if necessary. I would also still keep an eye on it, because if your engine starts getting too loose (old and worn), then the contaminants build up faster in the oil and break it down faster too.
3) My personal test has always been the oil stick color, feel and smell test. Looking darker is not always a big deal, but cloudy residue on the oil stick cloth with it is usually a sign its getting to be time to change it. I like to rub alittle between my fingers to feel its lubricity. Then compare with a new drop of oil. Bad smells like burned plastic or metal is generally a sign too.
1) An ordinary V8 holds 5 quarts, the porsche holds 10. This will effectively cut the wear on the oil in half. So its no wonder that porsche has a really high interval for oil changes.
2) Now synthetic companies like amsoil recommend a their 2 year/24,000 mile oil in ordinary 5 quart cars. Not bad but you still have to check the oil level and add if necessary. I would also still keep an eye on it, because if your engine starts getting too loose (old and worn), then the contaminants build up faster in the oil and break it down faster too.
3) My personal test has always been the oil stick color, feel and smell test. Looking darker is not always a big deal, but cloudy residue on the oil stick cloth with it is usually a sign its getting to be time to change it. I like to rub alittle between my fingers to feel its lubricity. Then compare with a new drop of oil. Bad smells like burned plastic or metal is generally a sign too.
