Notices
928 Forum 1978-1995
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: 928 Specialists

What's the "Best" performance chip for my '87 928 with refreshed '93 GTS motor?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-24-2007, 05:23 AM
  #1  
928S4/968CAB
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
928S4/968CAB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Carson City, NV
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Question What's the "Best" performance chip for my '87 928 with refreshed '93 GTS motor?

Any thoughts out there on what I should get?

http://www.promaxmotorsport.com/ = is what I was considering...
Old 03-24-2007, 05:49 AM
  #2  
T_MaX
Three Wheelin'
 
T_MaX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: No Turbo, No SC
Posts: 1,477
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

When you did the swap did you upgrade the LH and EZK?
Old 03-24-2007, 07:03 AM
  #3  
John Speake
Rennlist Member
 
John Speake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Cambridge England
Posts: 7,049
Received 35 Likes on 28 Posts
Default

For a GTS engine, you should be running 928 618 123 30 software in the LH ECU and 928 618 124 30 in the EZK.
Old 03-24-2007, 08:22 AM
  #4  
Rick Carter
Rennlist Member
 
Rick Carter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Central Ohio
Posts: 10,133
Received 68 Likes on 44 Posts
Default

And the best performance chip is from John Speake - Shark Tuner.
Old 03-24-2007, 08:24 AM
  #5  
DR
Rennlist Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor

 
DR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 4,306
Received 12 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Rick Carter
And the best performance chip is from John Speake - Shark Tuner.
DITTO!

..and this is coming from someone who has sold Performance Chips for over 9 years!
__________________
David Roberts
2010 Jaguar XKR Coupe - 510HP Stock - Liquid Silver Metallic
928 Owners Club Co-Founder
Rennlist 928 Forum Main Sponsor
www.928gt.com

928 Specialists on Facebook - 928Specialists
Sharks in the Mountains on Facebook - 928SITM

Old 03-24-2007, 08:40 AM
  #6  
John Speake
Rennlist Member
 
John Speake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Cambridge England
Posts: 7,049
Received 35 Likes on 28 Posts
Default

Thanks !

The LH2.2 SharkTuner for 85/86 US early 32v will be released VERY soon :-)
Old 03-24-2007, 08:44 AM
  #7  
DR
Rennlist Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor

 
DR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 4,306
Received 12 Likes on 8 Posts
Default



Old 03-24-2007, 09:50 AM
  #8  
RDS928S
Rennlist Member
 
RDS928S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: NJ but from Boston
Posts: 3,996
Received 678 Likes on 307 Posts
Default

John,
how will your new perormance software for the early 85/86 32v engine differ from the Autothority performance set up?

Rich
Old 03-24-2007, 10:00 AM
  #9  
John Speake
Rennlist Member
 
John Speake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Cambridge England
Posts: 7,049
Received 35 Likes on 28 Posts
Default

You would be able to tune the LH specifically to your car, which will take account of all the tolerances that exist of the various components.

This is always going to be more satisfactory than a "one size fits all" chip.
Old 03-24-2007, 10:51 AM
  #10  
IcemanG17
Race Director
 
IcemanG17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Stockton, CA
Posts: 16,265
Received 71 Likes on 56 Posts
Default

Since your running a fairly custom 928.....I also vote for a complete custom Shark Tuner chipset....figure on several HOURS of dyno time + the shark tuner to get it right.......but it will be the absolute best possible chipset you can have for your 928!!

I would stay away from standard chips....due to your GTS engine.....
Old 03-24-2007, 11:02 AM
  #11  
cobalt
Rennlist Member
 
cobalt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 22,177
Received 1,935 Likes on 1,170 Posts
Default

These chips show about 16hp increase on a GTS. Most of this is above 3k rpms. Would you notice an improvement? How much would gas mileage be compromised?
Old 03-24-2007, 11:42 AM
  #12  
RichS 1986928
Racer
 
RichS 1986928's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 343
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

John,
Will the shark tuner for the 85/86 take the place of the 2 performance chips currently available?
What's the approx. price?

I bought some cheapo perf. chips on ebay for $99 and I'm always wondering if they are doing anything.
The seatamometer says a couple of HP at most.
Old 03-24-2007, 01:51 PM
  #13  
John Speake
Rennlist Member
 
John Speake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Cambridge England
Posts: 7,049
Received 35 Likes on 28 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by RichS 1986928
John,
Will the shark tuner for the 85/86 take the place of the 2 performance chips currently available?
What's the approx. price?

I bought some cheapo perf. chips on ebay for $99 and I'm always wondering if they are doing anything.
The seatamometer says a couple of HP at most.
If you are refering to the 85/86 chipset sold by DR then at present we do not offer an similar tuning package until we get the EZ-F SharkTuner finished

The first release of the LH2.2 ST will tune LH only. We intend to then work on the EZ-F for the 85/86 cars next.

I don't sell chip sets (except standard software). I develop and make tuners for modified 928s.

As far as the orignal GTS chip question I would recommend a change back to GTS software in the LH and EZK. If the car is stock, then that is good enough. (assuming MAF and knock sensor/Hall sensors are OK)

If an x pipe or other performance mod is added, then the car would benefit from a SharkTuner session. There are more than a dozen SharkTuners in the USA now and I am sure some of them will be offering SharkTuner sessions to other 928 owners.
Old 03-24-2007, 03:53 PM
  #14  
PorKen
Inventor
Rennlist Member

 
PorKen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 10,099
Received 335 Likes on 199 Posts
Default

John,

Is it OK to use aftermarket EZ-F chips when SharkTuning the LH2.2?
Old 03-24-2007, 05:25 PM
  #15  
John Speake
Rennlist Member
 
John Speake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Cambridge England
Posts: 7,049
Received 35 Likes on 28 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by PorKen
John,

Is it OK to use aftermarket EZ-F chips when SharkTuning the LH2.2?
Hi Ken
I guess it would be OK, but if these chips give more advance (which I guess they do) I would rarher fit stock chips until I was sure the fuelling was correct, before adding igntion advance.

The ST Autotune algorthm is designed to be "safe" - it moves much faster to richen fuellling than it does to weaken it.

Have you fiited a knock sensor system to your 875/86 car ?


Quick Reply: What's the "Best" performance chip for my '87 928 with refreshed '93 GTS motor?



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 07:11 AM.