Clutch Removal Question (Update!)
03-08-2007, 10:45 AM
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Clutch Removal Question (Update!)
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I'm doing my first clutch removal on my '85 and I seem to have reached an impasse. The WSM says to knock out the "stepped" alignment pin towards the flywheel, removing it entirely. Done. It also says to knock back the other 2 alignment pins towards the pressure plate, just enough so that they clear the flywheel (but do not remove completely). My problem here is that I don't have any room to really drift these 2 pins solidly because of the close proximity of the oil pan, starter, sway bar. Is there any reason why I should not just ignore the WSM and drift them out entirely from the flywheel by striking from the pressure plate side where I have lots of room? I could reposition them in the pressure plate after I remove the clutch pack, right?
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I'm doing my first clutch removal on my '85 and I seem to have reached an impasse. The WSM says to knock out the "stepped" alignment pin towards the flywheel, removing it entirely. Done. It also says to knock back the other 2 alignment pins towards the pressure plate, just enough so that they clear the flywheel (but do not remove completely). My problem here is that I don't have any room to really drift these 2 pins solidly because of the close proximity of the oil pan, starter, sway bar. Is there any reason why I should not just ignore the WSM and drift them out entirely from the flywheel by striking from the pressure plate side where I have lots of room? I could reposition them in the pressure plate after I remove the clutch pack, right?
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03-08-2007, 11:02 AM
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Glenn- Sorry, I wish I could lend some advice on this one, but haven't had to deal with this issue on the GT as it's a single disc clutch. I'm sure other will chime in.
03-08-2007, 11:16 AM
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No apologies required, Andrew. Looking through the archives, I read the threads you posted on removing your clutch. When you say you didn't have to "deal with this issue" on the GT, do you mean you had enough room to knock the pins through from the flywheel towards the pressure plate?
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03-08-2007, 11:20 AM
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I didn't screw around with the pins on my 81 - I just wiggled the clutch pack back until it dropped out.
Not 100% sure the differences between an 85 vs. 81 clutch. My car is updated with every new part that supersceeded the original 81 parts.
Not 100% sure the differences between an 85 vs. 81 clutch. My car is updated with every new part that supersceeded the original 81 parts.
03-08-2007, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by sharkmeister85
When you say you didn't have to "deal with this issue" on the GT, do you mean you had enough room to knock the pins through from the flywheel towards the pressure plate?
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03-08-2007, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
I didn't screw around with the pins on my 81 - I just wiggled the clutch pack back until it dropped out.
Not 100% sure the differences between an 85 vs. 81 clutch. My car is updated with every new part that supersceeded the original 81 parts.
Not 100% sure the differences between an 85 vs. 81 clutch. My car is updated with every new part that supersceeded the original 81 parts.
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03-08-2007, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Andrew Olson
No. I mean there are no pins to screw around with.
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Originally Posted by sharkmeister85
The only difference I can discern from the WSM is that '84 and up (to '87 I guess) has one "stepped" alignment pin so the clutch pack can only go back on one way. I was considering just leaving the pins and trying to wiggle or pry the clutch pack off as well, but didn't know if it was feasible. From your answer, that sounds like a possible solution. Thanks!
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I did have an issue installing a spare pressure plate - the pins were too far in one direction so the clutch would not seat down 100%. Easy fix - just tapped them back until it sat flush.
03-08-2007, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
Mine has guide pins, sounds the same?
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03-08-2007, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sharkmeister85
Are you sure? According to the WSM (pg. 30-6c), '87- up you need to drive the alignment pins out the same way. Maybe as Hacker has said, this step can be skipped then.
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03-08-2007, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrew Olson
I think this may have changed with the GT?? There are some alighnment pins on the clutch pack that fit into some holes on the flywheel, but theres do not come out.
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03-08-2007, 01:11 PM
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Glenn,
When I watched mine come out, he used a long punch to
get at those pins, maybe 1 ft long, tricky to get at, would be
a real pain if it wasn't on a lift.
Rich, 1986.0
When I watched mine come out, he used a long punch to
get at those pins, maybe 1 ft long, tricky to get at, would be
a real pain if it wasn't on a lift.
Rich, 1986.0
03-08-2007, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrew Olson
I think this may have changed with the GT?? There are some alighnment pins on the clutch pack that fit into some holes on the flywheel, but theres do not come out.
On my '89 GT, I definitely had the pins there when I did my clutch last winter. I just used a brass punch to move them as per the WSM, pretty easy.
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03-08-2007, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RichS 1986928
Glenn,
When I watched mine come out, he used a long punch to
get at those pins, maybe 1 ft long, tricky to get at, would be
a real pain if it wasn't on a lift.
Rich, 1986.0
When I watched mine come out, he used a long punch to
get at those pins, maybe 1 ft long, tricky to get at, would be
a real pain if it wasn't on a lift.
Rich, 1986.0
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So far it looks like my options are to find a very long punch to knock the pins back per the WSM, or to leave the pins alone and just try and wiggle/pry the clutch pack off of them and the flywheel. Has anybody knocked the pins out completely from the PP side and replaced them later (which is opposite to what the WSM says)?
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