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You know, we still don't know for sure it is the fuel system, do we? I have no issue with doing the fuel filter just as general maintenance, but you might end up no better off after doing the pump and relay. When it dies and will not start, you should check for spark. You can use an inductive timing light or just pull a plug and ground it to the block while turning the car over to see if there is spark. Someone already mentioned the infamous green wire. Also, Jim mentioned the FI relay (XVI).
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Originally Posted by Bill Ball
You know, we still don't know for sure it is the fuel system, do we? I have no issue with doing the fuel filter just as general maintenance, but you might end up no better off after doing the pump and relay. When it dies and will not satrt, you should check for spark. You can use an inductive timing light or just pull a plug and ground it to the block while turning the car over to see if there is spark. Someone already mentioned the infamous green wire. Also, Jim mentioned the FI relay (XVI).
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Kyle: I liked your reality check on "replace all the fuel components" too. I like Wade's "let's just be done with it" attitude, but he needs a little more idea of where to aim that shotgun.
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Hey Bro before you start throwing money at a problem you might not have why not take a chill pill and do more research on what is causing this to occur, have you looked at the top of the CE panel to see if it looks like water is leaking onto your CE board and all of the relays under it??? I would start here first and that is assuming that you have already read the FAQ on the top of the first page of this forum you will find links and info that will guide you and let you really understand what your doing and why and then find a cure for the problem, why throw a grenade when you can just put one on the target.... Take your time, otherwise you will be wasing it trying to fix parts that might be in good condition, and over looking the real culprit. Stan
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Originally Posted by neilh
If it is not the fuel pump relay ( you can also check the pump is running by having someone listen for it as you try to start - its under the rear on the same side as the filler cap)
---have someone crank the car as you listen under the hood for the fuel injectors clicking. Use a screwdriver against one of them as a stethoscope. If they are not clicking - check the AFC relay XVI ( 16) pull it and jump pins 30 - 87 as Bill suggested. Do not swap relays, the FP and AFC relay are not the same!
Good luck
---have someone crank the car as you listen under the hood for the fuel injectors clicking. Use a screwdriver against one of them as a stethoscope. If they are not clicking - check the AFC relay XVI ( 16) pull it and jump pins 30 - 87 as Bill suggested. Do not swap relays, the FP and AFC relay are not the same!
Good luck
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From: On the road 2-86.5, 3-87S4, 1-89S4 5sp
I had a similar problem and it was the oxygen sensor wire had blown back and gotten stuck on the cat the wire shorted and shutdown the starting of the car. The fuel pump is one of the things that gets shutdown. We found that the last ten fuses on the panel are dead also, so test the last 10-15 fuses first and then check under the car for the shorted wire. We spent at least five hours changing the good fuel pump and spending $200.00 for a new fuel pump I didn't need. Kingsmen11
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From: On the road 2-86.5, 3-87S4, 1-89S4 5sp
The problem could be the relay, and more, but another easy check is the oxygen sensor shorting out. It's wire runs from the exhaust, just ahead of the cats threw the transmission tunnel to the electric panel on the passengers side. There have been several instances of this wire making contact with the hot cat, melting the wire and shutting down the car. I found that the last ten to fifteen fuses were dead also, until I fixed the short. One of those is the fuel pump fuse! I hope this helps. Kingsmen11