danglerb

Just noticed this on ebay, 83 Euro 5 spd, located in Rice Minn. $7500 Bin. Is this just a plain Euro, or were all the 83 an S?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1983-...mZ230088078863

Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net

Looks like a Euro S, 4.7L not 5.0L as specified in the ad (unless a transplant was done).

danglerb

The 5.0L in the ad I figure is seller doesn't know boo about it, but how do you tell its a Euro S? Is it the WUR in the front that I am seeing?

I've been looking for the two headed distributor, but maybe that is 84+.

Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net

The VIN being ZZZ is one tell, the side markers on the fenders is another tell and the rear foglight is a third tell. I am sure there are others. Of course you would want the engine code if you were seriously considering the car.

AO

Should have twin dist, I think. Could be a Japan import which would have the 242bhp engine with the zzz vin.?

danglerb

Thats the question I put to the seller, if its a Japanese car imported to Canada.

Too sunroof for me to want the whole car, too much for just the motor even if its and S, which I am thinking now maybe its not.

Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net

80-83 are single distributor with 300hp, as I recall. Certainly was true for my 80 Euro S.
84-86 are twin distributor with 310hp, as I recall.

danglerb

Maybe it will turn out a nice car for somebody on the forum then.

AO

The best way to tell is to get the engine code.

danglerb

I've had a couple people tell me that some of the Euro S motors will have US parts, either from somebody pillaging the heads or cams, or as cheaper replacement parts if the originals have been damaged. Could be the most reliable easy check would be a flat stretch of road and a stop watch.

I don't want to stir up the seller, so I will leave any more questions to somebody directly interested.

Jadz928

This happened to me during a prospective purchase. It was an '84 EuroS out of Connecticut. It was a great looking car, but seemed slightly down on power. So I passed. Come to find out, after talking with D. Lloyd who knew a little history on the car... the cams had been replaced with US cams.

Jim
'84 EuroS2, 5sp
"Chewy"
............it's got the right cams

Joe F

It also has an "S" steering wheel.

As someone said, get the engine number to be sure. I can't speak to how you would check for cams not being original.

If it's a true 4.7 Euro S it will have about 260 rwhp and 2.73 final drive gears. The price seems fair if it is what it's represented to be. IMHO of course

No affiliation etc.

Imo000

I thoguht there was one the US 4.7 with 234hp and the Euro with 300hp. Is there another engine with a 242hp that falls in between the two?

Jadz928

There were no lower output 4.7's (aside from the 300 to 310hp)

You might be thinking of the 77-82 Euro 4.5L

In '83, they only sold 4.7L Euro motors

SMTCapeCod

Seems like there are a ton of *83* Euros, in comparison with other years. Maybe they catch my eye more, but seems like someone was doing a lot of importing for some reason during that year.