Notices
928 Forum 1978-1995
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: 928 Specialists

Ebay: 1993 GTS, zermatt silver, BIN $28,900!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-01-2007, 01:28 PM
  #106  
SteveG
Rennlist Member
 
SteveG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: New York
Posts: 6,492
Received 95 Likes on 76 Posts
Default

Todd = Freeloader, doesn't know simple contractions.

While you are BONING up on you're = you are, look up the definition of GORGEOUS. LMAOROLLLLLLLING AND LAUGHING.

Todd Lupner's DICTIONeRY (sic): GORGEOUS, noun qualifyer or adjective. Appears less than authentic to the eye, could betray itself as obvious defective workmanship if looked at with suboptimal pictures commonly seen on ebay when someone doesn't look at or purposely ignors the obvious, known as the "clouds got in the way" syndrome, no known cure. The defects are often obscured by pictures taken in a dark or shadowed garage or in sunlight when taken with a super low resolution camera. Also often used by persons who resort to name calling, who refuse to admit being caught in hype. Commonly used by used car dealers who have owned over 50 cars themselves but are not registered as brokers in their own state and have gotten stiffed by a Canadian who also misrepresented the car to them.


Archaic, in the past meant splendid, brilliant or magnificent.
SteveG is offline  
Old 02-01-2007, 02:59 PM
  #107  
928ntslow
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
928ntslow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 4,172
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Weird...I don't know if this has been addressed, but I suspect deception..
Bidding for the Silver GTS
928ntslow is offline  
Old 02-01-2007, 03:05 PM
  #108  
low miler
Banned
Thread Starter
 
low miler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 847
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Tony
and you dont bone up to be a sponsor.?

Sorry guys, but IMHO JD and RV need to step up here and shut this guy down. Period.
Pay up or shut up Todd. I have no beef except your lack of sponsorhip.
Its blatantly obvious the Rennlist is a means by which he uses to promote his business ..... or am i the only one that sees this??
With vendors like Nicole, Murph, Champagne and others in different forums for example that have started there own business from scratch and are along the line of "individuals" that find the resources to sponsor, i find it sad that Todd isnt being held to the same scrutiny when he boasts about 70K in sales.

ethically speaking Todd, do you think it would be the right thing for you to become a sponsor?

Of course you file a return on that come the 15th right.
Actually yes, not only do I file, but I do so in January. I also keep a folder on every single car, the repairs, cost of advertising, and then a final bill of sale from the purchaser.

Now if I could only get a deduction for the abuse I take on this forum.

Tony, a majority of my post's are about giving a heads up to my "so called" fellow Rennlisters on great deals on particular 928's that I'm NOT purchasing, as a favor to those on this site that might not have seen it for sale otherwise.

Let's take two of my last threads for example. One was a heads up for a 26,000 mile, black/black '89 GT, mistakingly being sold by a California dealer as just an S4, for a mere $25K, if I remember the price correctly correctly. I had no interest in that car, but it was a steal and could have been bought for $24K, but where's the thankis for that one?

Before that, an '87 or '88 silver S4, 5 speed with 40,000 miles for $20-$22K that a Rennlister, I think his username is Henry ended up buying several weeks later, though I think he missed my thread and found it on his own.

Do those threads not sound like I'm actually doing a free service as well for this forum? Though somehow, those threads, probably because their started by me still cause criticism. Unbelieveable!

And if putting these ads in the forum is the only beef, then I'll simply stick to just putting them in the classifies section.

But as you referenced JD and RV to step up, I'll also make my appeal to them as well.

As both of you guys are probably well aware by now, I do tend to draw an overwhelming amount of criticism in my threads, albeit from the cars I do actually have for sale, right on up top the one's I'm just mentioning as a favor to other Rennlisters of which I've just come across and have absolutely NO interest in. You may also want to take note that the same exact Rennlisters, of which consist of a select group of ten or so regulars, are the same exact one's that respond to each and every one of my threads with negative and personal attacks. I do believe that you two are already aware of this particular group of bullies, and for that reason, you have already made your decision.

I would assume as moderators, you take both sides into consideration before carefully making your decisions. I will admit that I do get drawn into these name callings and personal attacks, only because I know the facts, because they're my cars, and for that i feel I have a right to defend myself. I kinow I get carried away at times, as do others, but that's just a personality trait of mine. As Kevin said, in any other circumstance, if these same people answered a personal ad for one of my cars for sale, they would be meeting an entirely different person than they portrait me out to be on Rennlist.

I do stand behind the fact that my Ebay feedback profile speaks volumes over conjecture from mere strangers.

Low Miler
low miler is offline  
Old 02-01-2007, 03:11 PM
  #109  
Tony
Addict
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
 
Tony's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 14,671
Received 580 Likes on 302 Posts
Default

ethically speaking Todd, do you think it would be the right thing for you to become a sponsor?

Dont avoid the question.
YES...NO.
Tony is offline  
Old 02-01-2007, 03:20 PM
  #110  
low miler
Banned
Thread Starter
 
low miler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 847
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 928ntslow
Weird...I don't know if this has been addressed, but I suspect deception..
Bidding for the Silver GTS

Kevin,

Now you are waaaaaay out of line this time! This comment is a direct personal attack of me and is teetering on defamation of character!

This is EXACTLY the kind of conjecture I'm talking about. These kind of words not only hurt, but are in direct contradiction to the standards of which I sell my cars. These kind of words also insight further conjecture about me that is false and unfounded and will assuredly contribute to further defamating remarks.

Kevin, I never bid up my cars. Regardless of what you may think, I have very high moral standars, and that goes for selling my cars as well. You have absolutely NO idea of how much time, effort and money I put into each and every one of them to make them as near to new as possible. This is just an alltime low remark and a huge assumption of something you have absolutely NO idea about.

What is your deception issue you speak of. Is it the "bidder 1", "bidder 2" thing. Well, if it is, then you should know that for security reasons and identity theft, Ebay changed the way they run auctions as of a month or so ago. Now the identities of all bidders are kept secret as to avoid scammes sending out false "second chance" offers. See just how wickedly wrong you can be. And this is exactly how gossip is fueled. You are not a nice person at all.

And for your information, though I really have no reason to to defend myself, Willhoit is the current high bidder at $20,000. You may want to think your whole impression of me over again as well while you chew on that one.

Todd
low miler is offline  
Old 02-01-2007, 03:27 PM
  #111  
danglerb
Nordschleife Master
 
danglerb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Orange, Cal
Posts: 8,575
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 928ntslow
Weird...I don't know if this has been addressed, but I suspect deception..
Bidding for the Silver GTS
Not that unusual, there are a number of bidders who check the new listings and put in a single bid on many cars, sort of reverse Todds, Most auctions go sailing past their max bids, but I am guessing they actually buy a number of cars.

OTOH its almost certain some bogus bids are still going through even with the credit card thing for bigger bids.

As its been said in many threads, fuzzy picts, glossy language, high bid is just the right to make the first real offer when you inspect the car. That is almost certain to happen with this one, unless the relisting is more truthful when this deal falls through. Remember that FL car that sold like 4 times with the buyer walking away on inspection?
danglerb is offline  
Old 02-01-2007, 03:39 PM
  #112  
Ed Hughes
Rennlist Member
 
Ed Hughes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Bend, OR
Posts: 16,508
Received 77 Likes on 51 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Tony
and you dont bone up to be a sponsor.?

Sorry guys, but IMHO JD and RV need to step up here and shut this guy down. Period.
Pay up or shut up Todd. I have no beef except your lack of sponsorhip.
Its blatantly obvious the Rennlist is a means by which he uses to promote his business ..... or am i the only one that sees this??
With vendors like Nicole, Murph, Champagne and others in different forums for example that have started there own business from scratch and are along the line of "individuals" that find the resources to sponsor, i find it sad that Todd isnt being held to the same scrutiny when he boasts about 70K in sales.

ethically speaking Todd, do you think it would be the right thing for you to become a sponsor?

Of course you file a return on that come the 15th right.

That really is an excellent point, about ponying up to be a sponsor. If the cars are going to be advertised here, and as was stated, their sales are now the fullltime gig, it is the right thing to do. It should also be mandatory.

The point about whether this shows up come 4/15 is also interesting. A guy on Howard Stern's show bragged about some income or not paying taxes, and ended up in the slammer a couple of years ago. You never know who is watching or listening...
Ed Hughes is online now  
Old 02-01-2007, 03:41 PM
  #113  
Randy V
Addict
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
 
Randy V's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Insane Diego, California
Posts: 40,430
Received 92 Likes on 62 Posts
Default

OK, here we go -

Todd - please study this carefully.

https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...75#post2925275

If you wish to proceed, please contact me. If I don't hear from you, I'll assume you have decided to no longer use Rennlist as a marketing source and will no longer post vehicles for sale here - regardless of whether you are affiliated with the sale or not.

Thanks.
Randy V is offline  
Old 02-01-2007, 03:55 PM
  #114  
low miler
Banned
Thread Starter
 
low miler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 847
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Tony
Dont avoid the question.
YES...NO.
This isn't a court of law, and I won't answer a question asked of me in that tone. Thank you.

Todd
low miler is offline  
Old 02-01-2007, 04:00 PM
  #115  
Ed Hughes
Rennlist Member
 
Ed Hughes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Bend, OR
Posts: 16,508
Received 77 Likes on 51 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by low miler
This isn't a court of law, and I won't answer a question asked of me in that tone. Thank you.

Todd
Apparently, it's not a democracy either, as evidenced by Randy's post.
Ed Hughes is online now  
Old 02-01-2007, 04:02 PM
  #116  
low miler
Banned
Thread Starter
 
low miler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 847
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by danglerb
Not that unusual, there are a number of bidders who check the new listings and put in a single bid on many cars, sort of reverse Todds, Most auctions go sailing past their max bids, but I am guessing they actually buy a number of cars.

OTOH its almost certain some bogus bids are still going through even with the credit card thing for bigger bids.

As its been said in many threads, fuzzy picts, glossy language, high bid is just the right to make the first real offer when you inspect the car. That is almost certain to happen with this one, unless the relisting is more truthful when this deal falls through. Remember that FL car that sold like 4 times with the buyer walking away on inspection?
Again, you just don't want to hear the facts. I explained that the pictures sent to me were perfect, but to small to upload. So, if you actually take the time to read the listing, instead of just bandwagoning with jibberish, then you would see that I added to the listing that the original pics could be sent via e-mail to any interested party. Facts, facts, instead of conjecture. Idiot!

And if you want to join in on saying I rig my auctions, then you just as low as the person who made the statement in the first place.

And that was a good point about the Howard Stern thing. Bring it on please! But that does remind me that defamation of character is also an offense (note to self: save Keith and danglerbs replies for attorney).

Hey, while your at it, why don't you get a rumor started that I probably roll back the odometers as well?

Low Miler
low miler is offline  
Old 02-01-2007, 04:05 PM
  #117  
Randy V
Addict
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
 
Randy V's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Insane Diego, California
Posts: 40,430
Received 92 Likes on 62 Posts
Default

We're done.

Closed.
Randy V is offline  



Quick Reply: Ebay: 1993 GTS, zermatt silver, BIN $28,900!



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 09:49 PM.