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Old 12-29-2006 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by danglerb
Boost works, but lacks elegance.
I've never heard that .... and elegance sits behind the starting line while boost eats up road. You CANNOT gain even 10% of the power with elegance. If you wanted to reach 650hp with elegance it would cost you a million dollars.
Old 12-29-2006 | 04:03 PM
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http://www.supercars.net/cars/3448.html I bet the motor even fits in a 928.
Old 12-29-2006 | 04:11 PM
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If you wanted to reach 650hp with elegance it would cost you a million dollars.
A little less than that
Old 12-29-2006 | 07:33 PM
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I only have one question about modified airboxes and free-flowing K&N style air filters. How long will the engine make increased power from these mods? Lowering the restrictions is great for building power and moving more air, but they also allow more dirt to enter the engine will accelerate wear.
Old 12-29-2006 | 08:38 PM
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I used the stock paper air filter.
Old 12-29-2006 | 08:49 PM
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you wont notice any difference with a stock filter vs paper, as there is substantial leaking on the 928 air box under vacuum. stock filter causes about .1"Hg pressure drop across it in a sealed air box. without sealing, both are near .2-.3 . there certainly is more restriction with stock vs paper filters, but the problem with almost all the dyno tests, is that the air box leaks. once the air box leaks vacuum, then the test is meaningless. the meaning of this is that the air is leaking around the air box seal bringing in unfiltered hotter air. thats why i vent and seal the air box. (and use a very lightly oiled KN)


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Old 12-29-2006 | 08:51 PM
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oiled cotton filters trap as much dirt as you would want. however, the leaking air box kind of defeats the goal of real clean filtered air, which 99% of most 928 owners have. ive raced the heck out of a 84 , 170,000miles and when it was apart, no wear found, anywhere!

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Originally Posted by JHowell37
I only have one question about modified airboxes and free-flowing K&N style air filters. How long will the engine make increased power from these mods? Lowering the restrictions is great for building power and moving more air, but they also allow more dirt to enter the engine will accelerate wear.
Old 12-29-2006 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by danglerb
Airbox also reduces intake noise, take it off and you may 'think" its faster when its just noisier.
The same is true of exhaust mods. Seems our perception of power is strongly (and often erroneously) influenced by increases in noise. Our seat-o-the-pants dynos are relatively insensitive and real suckers when it comes to noise. It's very difficult to accurately detect 30hp differences with our butts and feeling 5 or 10hp is just about impossible. Perception is cool if it makes one happy, but don't bet your pink slips!

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Old 12-29-2006 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by John Veninger
A little less than that
Well then, post your suggestion sir, cause there is no "elegance" that will get you to 650. You will need a massive rebuild with stroke and bore OR huffing. Any other options?



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