Notices
928 Forum 1978-1995
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: 928 Specialists

while we were sleeping, missed this '93 GTS, 27K, $23,500!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-04-2006, 11:42 AM
  #16  
low miler
Banned
Thread Starter
 
low miler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 847
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by perrys4
It will probably be back uop for sale soon. Manager and a broker probably working together to make some cash on the side.
I certainly wouldn't be surprised at all. A quick way to make at least 10 grand!
low miler is offline  
Old 12-04-2006, 04:53 PM
  #17  
Kevin Q
Track Day
 
Kevin Q's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Mass
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Low miler, I drove that silver one in RI, it had an expensive custom stereo install and a built in radar detector that went off every 2 minutes if I remember correctly. The salesman that rode with me had no idea what it was and after I showed him what it could do he said, "wow I didn't know these cars where that fast". I believe they were asking 35k.
Kevin Q is offline  
Old 12-04-2006, 04:57 PM
  #18  
low miler
Banned
Thread Starter
 
low miler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 847
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Kevin Q
Low miler, I drove that silver one in RI, it had an expensive custom stereo install and a built in radar detector that went off every 2 minutes if I remember correctly. The salesman that rode with me had no idea what it was and after I showed him what it could do he said, "wow I didn't know these cars where that fast". I believe they were asking 35k.
Yep, that's the one alright! I removed all the crap, fixed the stereo, and made a real nice car out of it. But you already know it was a nice car!
low miler is offline  
Old 12-04-2006, 05:55 PM
  #19  
928ntslow
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
928ntslow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 4,172
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Uh yea...when was the last time you saw ANY dealer post a 928 wayyy under value????? ESPECIALLY a GTS with 27000 miles. Give me a break!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
928ntslow is offline  
Old 12-04-2006, 07:56 PM
  #20  
perrys4
The Lady's Man
Rennlist Member
 
perrys4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: south O.C. california
Posts: 10,444
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Not knowing the value these days doesn't cut it. The internet makes finding pricing very easy. A dealer would know how to look one up. Its a fishy deal.
perrys4 is offline  
Old 12-04-2006, 08:10 PM
  #21  
BC
Rennlist Member
 
BC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 25,152
Received 87 Likes on 56 Posts
Default

Nothing is ever as it seems, either good or bad.
BC is offline  
Old 12-04-2006, 10:30 PM
  #22  
EspritS4s
Rennlist Member
 
EspritS4s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 2,095
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

So, if you were a dealer, where would you look online to find the value of a 93 GTS with 27K miles? Ebay? I doubt it. It may have been a fishy deal, but they may have also looked up the numbers in the book (which prices the car in the mid $20's) and just gone with it. I'm sure that's how they would have come up with the trade-in value. I don't know Chamber's policies, but I know of at least one other very large dealership chain that would have way underpriced this car due to their policies on markups on trade-ins.


-Gary
EspritS4s is offline  
Old 12-04-2006, 10:50 PM
  #23  
Charley B
Rennlist Member
 
Charley B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Patterson, Ca
Posts: 4,373
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

As a dealer selling the car one could assume they would have checked Kelly Blue Book for retail value where they would have been informed of a value of $33,540. Of course we have no idea what impact the condition may have had on their decision. Good or bad.
Charley B is offline  
Old 12-04-2006, 11:03 PM
  #24  
EspritS4s
Rennlist Member
 
EspritS4s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 2,095
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Interesting... When I plug the numbers into both NADA and KBB, I get a high retail value of $28K.

-Gary
EspritS4s is offline  
Old 12-04-2006, 11:06 PM
  #25  
perrys4
The Lady's Man
Rennlist Member
 
perrys4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: south O.C. california
Posts: 10,444
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Someone said they own Porsche dealerships. I am sure one of them would have a contact for a realistic price.
perrys4 is offline  
Old 12-04-2006, 11:06 PM
  #26  
EspritS4s
Rennlist Member
 
EspritS4s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 2,095
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Oh, I see, you get a value of $33K if you plug in a California zip code. I checked using a Boston area zip. That's a pretty big regional adjustment.

-Gary
EspritS4s is offline  
Old 12-04-2006, 11:08 PM
  #27  
Charley B
Rennlist Member
 
Charley B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Patterson, Ca
Posts: 4,373
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

http://www.kbb.com/KBB/Selection/Equipment.aspx
Charley B is offline  
Old 12-04-2006, 11:09 PM
  #28  
Charley B
Rennlist Member
 
Charley B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Patterson, Ca
Posts: 4,373
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

That's an amazing regional difference.
Charley B is offline  
Old 12-04-2006, 11:10 PM
  #29  
danglerb
Nordschleife Master
 
danglerb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Orange, Cal
Posts: 8,575
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Make sure you include the mileage and all the "stuff".

Every trade in I have ever made the dealer either knew the value, or called other dealers to see what they could wholesale the car for. This dealership is part of a chain with two Porsche dealers in it, I find it REAL hard to believe they didn't know exactly what the value of the car was.
danglerb is offline  
Old 12-04-2006, 11:24 PM
  #30  
EspritS4s
Rennlist Member
 
EspritS4s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 2,095
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I included all the mileage and stuff. My main point is that this is a very well established Mercedes dealership. They aren't going to spend a lot of time tracking down the value of such a rare car. The general manager's friend story may have had something to do with it, but they are unlikely to offer more than the book trade in value. They don't want a 13 year old Porsche sitting on their lot, so the premium they charge over the trade in value would reflect this. I agree with everyone that they made a mistake on this car at the very least. I guess I'm just not as surprised that it happened.
Most people with this kind of car would never consider trading it in at a dealership, which is why this isn't more common.

-Gary
EspritS4s is offline  


Quick Reply: while we were sleeping, missed this '93 GTS, 27K, $23,500!



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 04:41 AM.