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Old 11-27-2006, 08:09 PM
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When are you pulling your intake? I'd like to pull mine apart before the kiddo is born, get it media blasted and degreased (boiled out?), replace the flappy bearing, then hit it with the wurth silver and clear. Maybe we can get a bunch o' Socal S4 folks to go in together. Any thoughts on local shops that might safely media blast magnesium? The PO had the valve covers done, so I don't have to touch them (unless of course the Wurth silver doesn't match......)
Old 11-27-2006, 08:31 PM
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I really need to figure out how to get larger photos with higher res.
Here are the shots of my engine after the Chuck treatment. My coating was all flaked off and all that remained was the grey primer coat. Took about a week of evenings. Lettering was done using testors paint pens.
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Old 11-27-2006, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Ball
Amazing. I can't believe the masking effort. After looking at your masking and part removal, it would have been easier to just remove the intake manifold. The only other parts you needed to remove were the fuel rails. The whole manifold removal is less than an hour, and almost zero masking would have been needed. The valve covers are relatively simple to expose and mask, so I can see doing them in-place, as you did.

What that hey. The results speak for themselves. Nice job., as always!
Unfortunately, my expertise was in covering with plastic and masking things off. I was concerned I didn't have the mechanical skills to put it back the way it came apart. I am one of those guys who is great at taking things apart but when it comes to putting them back together is when I run into trouble.


Originally Posted by ROG100
The paint holds up very well as the temperatures never get near the paint operating temperature. Look at the paint on calipers - if it deteriates its the brake dust doing it not the extremes of temperature.
This is why what you said about painting them in an earlier post made so much sense to me. Thanks.


Originally Posted by dr bob
My original bolts still have that yellow class-5 cad or yellow zinc plating on the heads. After some of the horror stories about those bolts, I'm tempted to do what you did, but mask the bolt heads. Getting new ones the right color is a chore, since the OEM bits aren't as yellow as the originals are. Pulling the bolts risks damaging the heads, and polishing paint off of them risks the plating.
Eastwood actually sells a kit to replicate the plating. Not sure what I am going to do.....

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Did you use any clear-coat over the silver?
I bought a high temp clear but the finish of the silver is so bright it didn't need a clear-coat.

Several commented on the before pictures and how clean it looked before I started. The pictures of the before shots make it look cleaner than it actually was and the after pictures do not look as good as it does in person. A car dealer's detail guy got a hold of it (probably why the original finish was peach colored) and sprayed it with that sticky shinny stuff. It collects dust and is really difficult to get off, I removed most of it.
Old 11-27-2006, 10:07 PM
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Good Job man, super Thumbs up to you!
Old 11-27-2006, 10:36 PM
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Very nice job Chuck, looks awesome. The finish on the hoses and plastics looks great too, what did you end up using on these?
Old 11-27-2006, 10:53 PM
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Nice job, Eventually I'll do mine. I will remove mine to replace a minor leak in bridge o-ring gasket. Can you post a list of all the materials you used, required quantities (or minimum they are sold in) and vendor details or links?

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Old 11-27-2006, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Air Cooled Carrera
Very nice job Chuck, looks awesome. The finish on the hoses and plastics looks great too, what did you end up using on these?
Thanks, I used Griots vinyl and rubber dressing. I used it on the interior and it made things a bit to shinny for my taste. Looks good under the hood though.
Old 11-27-2006, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Herman K
Nice job, Eventually I'll do mine. I will remove mine to replace a minor leak in bridge o-ring gasket. Can you post a list of all the materials you used, required quantities (or minimum they are sold in) and vendor details or links?94 GTS
Really the only products I had to buy were the 1 can of brake caliper paint (used less than half the can) from Eastwood (www.eastwood.com) and one can of rubberized paintable undercoating, everything else I had. Not a lot of materials other than the time and the paint. I also used lacquer thinner to degrease and the Griots vinyl and rubber dressing after cleaning. The coverage on the brake caliper paint was amazing. The first light coat about covered everything, I was quite impressed.

[edit] here is the paint I used: http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?i...emType=PRODUCT
Old 11-28-2006, 12:06 AM
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I need to come and see your work one of these days, also have some hammer issues (PC programming) to work on with Roger. I'll try and find some time after I return from an oversees trip on December the 8th. Wish I could make the event at Rogers place on the 9th but I have a friend fly in from Europe that same day... oh well. Car is driving great just the lack the time to to do all the fancy stuff you guys are doing. I enjoyed sharing your work. I wish you well.

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Hi Chuck,

How is the paint job holding up after a couple years... does it still look good?

I'm contemplating this versus powder coating. For sure my intake is coming off, but if I go this way, the cam covers could stay on.
Old 12-08-2008, 04:51 PM
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Sorry to tell you Kurt, but I am pretty sure that Chuck no longer has this car.
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Has anybody else around hear tried the painting route and still happy with the results a couple years later?

I’d be happy if my end result looks as good as what Chuck had at the start.

I’ve been reviewing a ton of threads on this subject and all few seem to be leaning towards powder coating. I like the idea of using the crinkle finish on the cam covers to help mask the imperfection. I not to thrilled about using in on the intake though… just doesn’t look right to me.
Old 12-08-2008, 05:16 PM
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It all really depends on prep work done, and materials used, as is the same with everything.

If you go the powdercoating route, make sure you have them outgas your items a few times!
Old 12-08-2008, 05:21 PM
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I would guess that the paint is probably in good condition however the surface that was painted may peel off as it seems that all of the powder coated parts on the intake and to a lesser degree the cam covers all peel off over time
Old 12-08-2008, 05:33 PM
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I have not seen as big a problem with the peeling of the finish on the GTS's as on the S4's, could just be age or mile related adn GTS's have that ALL OVER most S4's, so it may just be a matter of time. I am waiting for the rest of the finish to peel off my S4's intake system so I can do the same to it! LOL!


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