Are Canadian 928 ROW?
11-23-2006, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Vilhuer
There are few ex Japanise car VINs in forum archives. Examples WP0ZZZ92ZJS849595 and WP0ZZZ92ZJS849598. Second one is Garth's.
IIRR, in early 9 and 10 digit long chassis number years Japanise cars were part of the US sequence with their own serials reserved high up above true US models. In 17 digit VINs used since '81 MY they are part of ROW sequence and again high up above normal ROW numbers starting from 9501. As usual, 9501 to 9560 is reserved for prototypes and special cars. First normal Japanise production car should be 9561.
IIRR, in early 9 and 10 digit long chassis number years Japanise cars were part of the US sequence with their own serials reserved high up above true US models. In 17 digit VINs used since '81 MY they are part of ROW sequence and again high up above normal ROW numbers starting from 9501. As usual, 9501 to 9560 is reserved for prototypes and special cars. First normal Japanise production car should be 9561.
From the book I'm using as a reference (Porsche 928 by Jorg Austen):
Zählnummer: Die ersten 50 Zählnummern der R. d. W. Farzeuge sind grundsätzlich für Prototypen und Versuchsfahrzeuge festgelegt. Die Nummern zwischen 0050 und 0060 sind stets für Sonderfahrzeuge reserviert.
Counting number: The first 50 counting numbers of the Rest of World are for prototypes and test vehicles. The numbers between 0050 and 0060 are always reserved for special vehicles.
So Japanese and USA/Canada cars with low (< 60) numbers are not special vehicles, aside from having cool serial numbers.
As I've said, though, some info in the book is suspicious. I'll elaborate on that in my own thread regarding the website I'm working on.
Thanks for the numbers, and please continue getting me any information you have on serial numbers. Feel free to PM or email it to me. I'm not going to discount anything anyone says, just because it disagrees from the book I have. In fact, I want to hear as much as I can about where the book may be wrong. Again, I'll post more on that later.
11-23-2006, 09:57 AM
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I think all three sets had 0001...0060 reserved for protos and specials contrary what Austen says. If they didn't, his production totals shown before tech specs for each MY doesn't make sense. There is one old thread where I counted one MY in the book where total from VINs was 179 off compared to production total if 3x60 wasn't counted out. Why 179 instead of 180 is just one more mystery in whole mess.
Found it: https://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/130727-production-numbers.html
Found it: https://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/130727-production-numbers.html
11-23-2006, 10:31 AM
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Danglerb, the two things to quick-check a Euro are this:
1) side-marker turn signals on the front fenders aft of the front wheels = Euro chassis
2) dual distributors on motor - Euro 300hp motor
1) side-marker turn signals on the front fenders aft of the front wheels = Euro chassis
2) dual distributors on motor - Euro 300hp motor
11-23-2006, 10:42 AM
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Dual distributor engine is '84-86 310 hp version. '80-83 300 hp has single. Turn signals behind front wheels are not absolute giveaway as some early ROWs where made without them.
11-23-2006, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Garth S
Malcolm, with the long winter ahead I recommend that you stockpile beer rather than water - freeze protection is built in; however, prior to resale, be sure to remove that freeze protector by passing it through your kidneys first. 
On topic, many 'grey market' vehicles make it to our shores. New 928s sold in Canada were US spec but as time went by Euro and Japanese spec cars came in. Some 'locals' do a good job importing cars that are low mileage and reasonably priced
11-23-2006, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by the flyin' scotsman
With our relative small population in the second largest country of the world we have all sorts of VINs.........including odd 928 #'s.
No matter we'll be trading water for gold soon.............who wants to stock pile?
No matter we'll be trading water for gold soon.............who wants to stock pile?
11-23-2006, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Vilhuer
Dual distributor engine is '84-86 310 hp version. '80-83 300 hp has single. Turn signals behind front wheels are not absolute giveaway as some early ROWs where made without them.
Dang it! My two favorite signs. Thanks Errka for setting me straight.