repaint, color change
#1
repaint, color change
I'm in the process of restoring my '85. Currently it has a backyard paint job of the lowest possible quality and it's not the original color. The original color is dunkelblau which I do not like at all. It's never going to be a concours winner. In addition, the interior is/was blue. But everything inside the car will either be replaced or reupholstered. I'm going to go with a combination of gray and black inside. I'm not going to remove the engine at this point, but I will be doing a thorough repaint everywhere else. The hatch and doors will be painted off the car, and the rear windows and sunroof will be out as well so I can properly prep the door jambs and everywhere else that causes trouble for new paint.
So far I've been toying with several different colors.
1. Prussianblau: This color was also available in '85 and I like it better then dunkelblau. I've seen several that are this color and I like them, but there are other colors I like more. One of my main reasons for choosing this color is that it's period appropriate.
2. Lapis blue pearl: This is a newer color from Porsche and has been used on Boxsters and newer 911s. I really like the color and it very closely resembles dunkelblau when they are side by side. The problem with it is if I ever need more, matching will prove next to impossible. It is also dark enough that unfortunately every single flaw will show up. And finally, I'm not sure that it will look appropriate for the year of the car.
3. Seal gray: Another modern Porsche color. It looks really good on the boxster and 911. Matching would be difficult. The other problem is light colored metallic paints are difficult to spray on evenly. And while I like the color, gray isn't really a color. I've been driving a beige sedan for several years now and I want a car with some color again.
4. Cassisrot: This is a really cool color. I've more pics of it on 911s from the mid-80s and they look great with it. I know it was available on the 928S4 circa 87-88, but I think it would work well on an '85 since many of the styling concepts of an '85 were closer to the 911 of that time as opposed to the S4 which was light years ahead. My main apprehension with cassisrot is that it's in the red family, and is a total departure from the various blue colors I was thinking of. I'd have to remove the engine so it wouldn't look silly.
I ordered the first three colors from paintscratch.com and used them on test panels to see what I like. I may go hit the paint store and pick up a small quantity of cassisrot to see what I think of it.
Anyone have any opinions or ideas on other colors? Black is out of the question. I won't entertain the thought of black at all. I had a black car years ago and learned my lesson. White isn't gonna happen either.
So far I've been toying with several different colors.
1. Prussianblau: This color was also available in '85 and I like it better then dunkelblau. I've seen several that are this color and I like them, but there are other colors I like more. One of my main reasons for choosing this color is that it's period appropriate.
2. Lapis blue pearl: This is a newer color from Porsche and has been used on Boxsters and newer 911s. I really like the color and it very closely resembles dunkelblau when they are side by side. The problem with it is if I ever need more, matching will prove next to impossible. It is also dark enough that unfortunately every single flaw will show up. And finally, I'm not sure that it will look appropriate for the year of the car.
3. Seal gray: Another modern Porsche color. It looks really good on the boxster and 911. Matching would be difficult. The other problem is light colored metallic paints are difficult to spray on evenly. And while I like the color, gray isn't really a color. I've been driving a beige sedan for several years now and I want a car with some color again.
4. Cassisrot: This is a really cool color. I've more pics of it on 911s from the mid-80s and they look great with it. I know it was available on the 928S4 circa 87-88, but I think it would work well on an '85 since many of the styling concepts of an '85 were closer to the 911 of that time as opposed to the S4 which was light years ahead. My main apprehension with cassisrot is that it's in the red family, and is a total departure from the various blue colors I was thinking of. I'd have to remove the engine so it wouldn't look silly.
I ordered the first three colors from paintscratch.com and used them on test panels to see what I like. I may go hit the paint store and pick up a small quantity of cassisrot to see what I think of it.
Anyone have any opinions or ideas on other colors? Black is out of the question. I won't entertain the thought of black at all. I had a black car years ago and learned my lesson. White isn't gonna happen either.
#2
JH,
You saved Cassisrot for last. If you search your soul you will find that it's what you really want .
I would throw the 'period appropriate' stuff out the window, since you're not going for a true restore, make it the color you want.
You saved Cassisrot for last. If you search your soul you will find that it's what you really want .
I would throw the 'period appropriate' stuff out the window, since you're not going for a true restore, make it the color you want.
#7
I like the lapis blue that Porsche(used to?) have. I think Mexico blue w/ black grey int would look killer on a 928 as well.
My girl hates it, but I also like the blue that comes on WRXs. Ok maybe a little sick of it now, but its not bad.
Later
Parker
889285SPD.
My girl hates it, but I also like the blue that comes on WRXs. Ok maybe a little sick of it now, but its not bad.
Later
Parker
889285SPD.
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#8
Iris blue metallic....later version..not the light blue.....it's a deep dark metallic blue that just looks awesome on the 928. Mark White did his Euro in that color..and a local here John Davis sprayed his 83 track car the same color..
Check out the Aussie 928 page and you'll see some examples of iris blue....
later,
Tom
89GT
P.S. You should also look at arena red...Chris Ford did his in that color.and it too looks awesome..
Check out the Aussie 928 page and you'll see some examples of iris blue....
later,
Tom
89GT
P.S. You should also look at arena red...Chris Ford did his in that color.and it too looks awesome..
#9
Originally Posted by Nicole
Since the car started out blue, I'd go with another blue color. This way, if something ever shows, it's not going to be drastic...
I would paint it the color I wanted to.
#10
Originally Posted by blown 87
I have changed the colors on a few cars, if it is done right you cna never tell that it has been done.
I would paint it the color I wanted to.
I would paint it the color I wanted to.
Just in case, this is a great link for colors:
http://www.landsharkoz.com/htm/sc/colourblue.htm
Hope to see you color selection soon.
#11
The exterior of the car will be stripped completely. I thought about using Glasurit paint but it's really expensive and the nearest supplier is about an hour away. I'll probably go with Spies Hecker since they're now a part of DuPont. There will be no original color on the car to show through with the exception of the overspray that's well past the door jambs and never seen unless the interior is disassembled. As far as under the hood, that will annoy me until I remove the engine, but once I do, I'll make sure I have some leftover paint to do that as well.
#12
Recently, I have been looking into options for repainting my car only to find out that the Acrylic Lacquer colors are becoming difficult to get due to them being old technologies and current problems with the EPA. Many shops no longer want the hassle of the VOC regs they are asked to follow for the older paint systems.
I have checked with 3 paint suppliers and 2 body shops who will refuse my business if I require the original paint for the repaint. Now, If I allow them to use newer technology paints like epoxies they will gladly take my greenbacks.
So you might want to check into who will do the work (unless DIY) before selecting one of the original paint colors only to be disappointed when you find out you might not be able to find someone to paint the car.
Cheers,
I have checked with 3 paint suppliers and 2 body shops who will refuse my business if I require the original paint for the repaint. Now, If I allow them to use newer technology paints like epoxies they will gladly take my greenbacks.
So you might want to check into who will do the work (unless DIY) before selecting one of the original paint colors only to be disappointed when you find out you might not be able to find someone to paint the car.
Cheers,
#14
The originall paint colors are still availaible in the newer paints out today , so don't worry about that. I have been thinking about repainting mine next summer, and have been looking at the newer Merc colors, they have one I think it's a 2000 color that's close to the original silver/blue met of my 81 euro, but a few shades darker that I really like. Good luck deciding i'tll be there awhile
#15
I decided to paint both the family sharks too. A little research led me to www.ppgcarpaint.com, where I bought some fast drying acrylic enamel. The car's stock Schieferblau for my boosted automatic (although it was a challenge to find with their misspelled "Schiferblau" ), and "Nachtblau" for my wife's 5 speed. Nachtblau isn't stock for her car...especially since it's for a later year than her 84, but it's either exactly, or extremely close to, what is already on the car, due to a PO's color change. Anyway, it's a nice color that she loves, so since it's just a dd, I figure what the hey. That color was even harder to find because of the year difference. The wife finally found PPG's code on a completely different, unaffiliated website, some sort of auto paint color library she ran across that had actual color scans of PPG's old paint chip catalog pages. Weird. But when she found the code and ran that through the website's search function, it came right up.
Anyway, I can tell you that the price is extremely competitive. I used to buy my paints locally at an autobody supply shop I've known since childhood, but I bought a quart of paint from him for the white car a couple years back, and paid something like $50 for it! PPG was much more reasonable, and extremely fast. I ordered last Sunday...they were here on Tuesday! Laying down the first coats tomorrow on the 5 speed, so I'll let you know how it works.
Anyway, I can tell you that the price is extremely competitive. I used to buy my paints locally at an autobody supply shop I've known since childhood, but I bought a quart of paint from him for the white car a couple years back, and paid something like $50 for it! PPG was much more reasonable, and extremely fast. I ordered last Sunday...they were here on Tuesday! Laying down the first coats tomorrow on the 5 speed, so I'll let you know how it works.