repaint, color change
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I currently work at a dealer that sells Porsche's and I always find it interesting to see what color cars come off the truck. I really like Seal Gray and any of Porsche's blues. The other day a new gray Cayman came in and the color on the window sticker was............... Meteor Gray Metallic. Always interesting how things seem to repeat in cycles. Joe
#18
Cobalt Blue! It's amazing in person, I've drooled over several Cayman S's in this hue on my local P-dealer's lot.
BTW check this page where I stole this photo from, all 997 options well-photographed with paint codes.
http://www.porschepassion.com/colours997.htm
BTW check this page where I stole this photo from, all 997 options well-photographed with paint codes.
http://www.porschepassion.com/colours997.htm
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Love the Marine Blue. It's hard to catch the color change in pics, the color changes from a deep metallic blue to a purple tinged blue depending on the light.
#20
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Originally Posted by Tom928
Recently, I have been looking into options for repainting my car only to find out that the Acrylic Lacquer colors are becoming difficult to get due to them being old technologies and current problems with the EPA. Many shops no longer want the hassle of the VOC regs they are asked to follow for the older paint systems.
I have checked with 3 paint suppliers and 2 body shops who will refuse my business if I require the original paint for the repaint. Now, If I allow them to use newer technology paints like epoxies they will gladly take my greenbacks.
So you might want to check into who will do the work (unless DIY) before selecting one of the original paint colors only to be disappointed when you find out you might not be able to find someone to paint the car.
Cheers,
I have checked with 3 paint suppliers and 2 body shops who will refuse my business if I require the original paint for the repaint. Now, If I allow them to use newer technology paints like epoxies they will gladly take my greenbacks.
So you might want to check into who will do the work (unless DIY) before selecting one of the original paint colors only to be disappointed when you find out you might not be able to find someone to paint the car.
Cheers,
Laquer is pretty, but modern polyurethane looks almost as good, as is far more durable.
I'll be painting myself or contacting my old employer who used to own a body shop to do the actual painting.
I won't give my money to anyone who does not embrace change.
Making a specific color of auto paint is no different then going to the Home Depot and having them mix some paint for your living. Any color you want, they can make. The only concerns a person should have in regard to the new paint versus the old stuff is compatibility between the products.
#23
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Originally Posted by danglerb
Any links with nice picts of all the steps in a good respray?
Whats the best modern paint?
Whats the best modern paint?
What's the best modern paint? That's a tough question to answer because there are several ways to evaluate what makes paint the best. You can probably break it into 3 categories on a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being the best.)
appearance (color and depth)
durability (resistance to UV and the environment in general)
ease of use and repair (ability to use properly, and correct minor flaws without having to start over)
Acrylic Polyurethane (AP)
appearance: 7-8
durability: 8-9
ease of use: 9-10
AP is used on most new cars and has been for several years now. It got a bad rap in the late 80s due to delamination problems on some Fords and GMs. Many purists look down their noses at it with the same attitude that air-cooled 911 owners have in regard to water-cooled Porsches.
Laquer
appearance: 9-10
durability: 2-3
ease of use: 8-9
If I had a show car I would use laquer paint if possible. Nothing has the color and depth of laquer. Laquer is not durable at all and requires constant upkeep. If you have a trailer-queen show car, it's not an issue since the car is rarely driven, never sees rain, and is always under cover. It takes many coats to produce a quality finish and requires a lot of sanding in between coats. This makes it very time consuming to apply. Laquer cures as a result of the solvents in it evaporating. This causes air pollution. The EPA is very strict on its use anymore. It's pretty and will draw attention, but it's not practical for daily use.
Enamel
appearance: 5-6
durability: 9-10
ease of use: 5-6
When you think of enamel, think of your teeth. Think of the wear and tear you put on them every day, and for many of us, they will last our entire lives. The protective coating on our teeth is called enamel. Tractors and UPS delivery trucks are painted with the stuff because it holds up for decades under the worst conditions. The problem with it is it just doesn't look very good when compared to the other two paints. In most of it's intended applications, looks mean very little and durability means everything which is why it's used. It's difficult to use because it is not receptive to any type of wet-sanding and polishing to correct flaws and defects from application. If you want it to look good, you get to start over. It's another poluter because it also cures from solvent evaporation.
Acrylic polyurethane IMO is the best because although it's great at nothing, it's good at everything.
#24
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Its been twenty years, but my friend used Emron and had them "color sand" I think between coats to do something good. Looked nice when he was done, but I know what your saying it didn't have that depth that lacquer does.
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Originally Posted by danglerb
Its been twenty years, but my friend used Emron and had them "color sand" I think between coats to do something good. Looked nice when he was done, but I know what your saying it didn't have that depth that lacquer does.