Eaton Supercharger - Andy Keel Screwed Me - Help!
11-17-2006, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Shark Attack
sounds like andy is out of money and got himself in a little deep. Sad, yes. **** happens. I hope the loss isnt going to break you?
11-17-2006, 04:25 PM
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The polished eaton and polished manifold I got from Andy is beautiful. He did a great job on everything he did provide, he just stopped way short. I wouldn't even have a problem if he called and said he was in financial trouble, I just can't take the silence/disappearing act.
Brian, you're right the biggest thing is the crank pulley. I've been wondering if I could fab one up by cutting off the end of a stock pulley. I just don't know what all the dimensions are as far as lining up with the eaton pulley.
Brian, you're right the biggest thing is the crank pulley. I've been wondering if I could fab one up by cutting off the end of a stock pulley. I just don't know what all the dimensions are as far as lining up with the eaton pulley.
11-17-2006, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Shark Attack
sounds like andy is out of money and got himself in a little deep. Sad, yes. **** happens. I hope the loss isnt going to break you?
Actually, the biggest disappointment was when Dave Roberts announced his Supercharger the beginning of Oct '05. Wish I would have waited 3 months. Will it break me? Thankfully no, but I'm having trouble even getting excited to aquire the parts to finalize the kit. Bad taste in my mouth so to speak.
11-17-2006, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Ball
What DO you have? It might be better to start there. In the meantime, I will try to respond to what you think you are missing in terms of what you might do, but these answers will be incomplete and may not represent the best approach - others please chime in.
Crankshaft pulley - this appears to be a custom item. I can take measurements. It is a single diameter, so perhaps it was off the shelf from somewhere, but I know not where. Actually, I think a better setup could be fabbed that would obviate all the other custom pulleys. DR has one solution, but that requires a long SC neck. Murph's pulley is the wrong size. Someone linked to the twinscrew thread - you should look it over. This issue was covered there. In fact, many answers will be there.
7psi eaton pulley - these are available from ? (somebody help me) - again, check the twinscrew thread.
powersteering pulley - again, appears to be custom to work with the ribbed crank pulley, but I think it was off the shelf, as it doesn't quite line up, and this results in belt walking.
by-pass valve - Andy made this up out of copper plumbing part and a commercially available bypass...need to get you more on this. We discussed the bypass in the twinscrew thread.
fuel injectors - Ford Motorsports from Summit Racing. At 5PSI I am using 30#.
fuel injector seats - a McMasters item. Will get PN later, but, again, this is covered in the twinscrew thread. Mine have worked fine, but others have found them to get brittle and Rick had a set of 0-ringed aluminum adapaters manufactured for his car.
intercooler pump - Nothing special. I'm not using whatever Andy supplied. I bought a nice pump from Dave Lomas at SLC Motorsports.
air filter - Andy supllied a common cone shaped K&N. I can look up the PN later.
supercharger belt - Gates Gatorback...PN to follow
boost gauge - Andy supplied various. You can use any of a bunch of vendors (Autometer, etc.)
air/fuel gauge - again, various.
fuel pressure gauge - 928motosports.com sells a kit
throttle linkage - what year is your car? You use the stock linkage. With S4 you use the stock cable. Andy provided an adapter to hold the end of the cable on top of the place where the bypass valve mounts. Did you get that? With pre-S4, you need a cable fabricated if you did not get it.
polished fuel rail covers - use your stock ones
vacuum lines & fittings - very simple to make up. On 928supermodel.com, there are pictures of the layout in the installation instructions on the forum.
ashtray template - a flat plate with holes to accomodate the gauges and for the ashtray screws, cut to fit the area.
the linkage mounting plate - for S4, Andy provided two L-brackets to mount the stock linkage on the top of the manifold. Very simple. I can give dimensions. For pre-S4, use the stock mount.
Did you get or do you have the 85-85 throttle body, 85-86 FPR.
As Rick mentioned, he had his custom installed. Even with all the parts, Rick and his mechanics came up with some better solutions. Andy did not deal with cold air intake, and there have been various solutions for that, again, in the twinscrew thread.
If this is all you are missing, I would say you are only out about $1000-$1500 worth of parts. Good luck recovering.
Crankshaft pulley - this appears to be a custom item. I can take measurements. It is a single diameter, so perhaps it was off the shelf from somewhere, but I know not where. Actually, I think a better setup could be fabbed that would obviate all the other custom pulleys. DR has one solution, but that requires a long SC neck. Murph's pulley is the wrong size. Someone linked to the twinscrew thread - you should look it over. This issue was covered there. In fact, many answers will be there.
7psi eaton pulley - these are available from ? (somebody help me) - again, check the twinscrew thread.
powersteering pulley - again, appears to be custom to work with the ribbed crank pulley, but I think it was off the shelf, as it doesn't quite line up, and this results in belt walking.
by-pass valve - Andy made this up out of copper plumbing part and a commercially available bypass...need to get you more on this. We discussed the bypass in the twinscrew thread.
fuel injectors - Ford Motorsports from Summit Racing. At 5PSI I am using 30#.
fuel injector seats - a McMasters item. Will get PN later, but, again, this is covered in the twinscrew thread. Mine have worked fine, but others have found them to get brittle and Rick had a set of 0-ringed aluminum adapaters manufactured for his car.
intercooler pump - Nothing special. I'm not using whatever Andy supplied. I bought a nice pump from Dave Lomas at SLC Motorsports.
air filter - Andy supllied a common cone shaped K&N. I can look up the PN later.
supercharger belt - Gates Gatorback...PN to follow
boost gauge - Andy supplied various. You can use any of a bunch of vendors (Autometer, etc.)
air/fuel gauge - again, various.
fuel pressure gauge - 928motosports.com sells a kit
throttle linkage - what year is your car? You use the stock linkage. With S4 you use the stock cable. Andy provided an adapter to hold the end of the cable on top of the place where the bypass valve mounts. Did you get that? With pre-S4, you need a cable fabricated if you did not get it.
polished fuel rail covers - use your stock ones
vacuum lines & fittings - very simple to make up. On 928supermodel.com, there are pictures of the layout in the installation instructions on the forum.
ashtray template - a flat plate with holes to accomodate the gauges and for the ashtray screws, cut to fit the area.
the linkage mounting plate - for S4, Andy provided two L-brackets to mount the stock linkage on the top of the manifold. Very simple. I can give dimensions. For pre-S4, use the stock mount.
Did you get or do you have the 85-85 throttle body, 85-86 FPR.
As Rick mentioned, he had his custom installed. Even with all the parts, Rick and his mechanics came up with some better solutions. Andy did not deal with cold air intake, and there have been various solutions for that, again, in the twinscrew thread.
If this is all you are missing, I would say you are only out about $1000-$1500 worth of parts. Good luck recovering.
As far as what I have, I have a picture of everything but I've never figured out how to attach a picture on rennlist (old fart).
11-17-2006, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Ball
fuel injectors - Ford Motorsports from Summit Racing. At 5PSI I am using 30#.
fuel injector seats - a McMasters item. Will get PN later, but, again, this is covered in the twinscrew thread. Mine have worked fine, but others have found them to get brittle and Rick had a set of 0-ringed aluminum adapaters manufactured for his car.
fuel injector seats - a McMasters item. Will get PN later, but, again, this is covered in the twinscrew thread. Mine have worked fine, but others have found them to get brittle and Rick had a set of 0-ringed aluminum adapaters manufactured for his car.
11-17-2006, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Darien Nunn
Fred,
Post pics of everything you have!!
Post pics of everything you have!!
11-17-2006, 05:34 PM
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"EDIT" This is what Fred was supposed to get.
Originally Posted by cfc928gt
Darien, I just emailed you the picture, could you please post it? Thanks
Last edited by Darien; 11-17-2006 at 06:35 PM.
11-17-2006, 05:50 PM
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OK, something is goofy. From the picture Darien posted, it sure looks like you do have the polished fuel rail covers and fuel pressure gauge. And what is that shiny pulley in the lower right corner? I see the bypass valve too and some of the vacuum lines. I see the boost and A/F gauges mounted in the ashtray template.
11-17-2006, 06:00 PM
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That's my guess, Fred sent me a pic of what he has, but it's too large to post and I don't have the program to crop. So he sent that one.
I think that's what he was supposed to get. Can someone please resize the actual photo?
I think that's what he was supposed to get. Can someone please resize the actual photo?