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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mark kibort
but the 2 valve pistons have to be cut for the 4 valve heads, right? that would be lots of cuts !! 32 of them!! i guess on a 6.5 liter 2 valve project, that would be the way to go.

just looked up some specs. seems that the 968 is the stroker version of the 104 mm 944s2, and also 4 valves.
i'm confused reading this. someone mentioned that the 944 S2 is a 16v motor. Wouldn't that means the pistons are already configured for 4v operation since its a 4cyl motor?
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 06:46 PM
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Mark, 944 S2 and 968 have same 104mm bore, 88mm stroke, 2990cc and 16V head.

2.7L 944 (non S, last year model) has 104mm, 78.9mm, 2681cc and 8V head. This was done to allow factory to get away with just one piston style on non turbo four cylinder blocks. Or was it other way around, 100mm and 88mm.

Anyway. both 944 S4 and 968 pistons are usable.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 06:51 PM
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I'm sure I saw a set of 968 pistons on ebay last week but there gone now, does that help?
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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I saw some 968 pistons the other day outside my work. they were still in the engine though (which was still inside the car). ok... so I guess I didn't really see the pistons themselves, but I assume they were in there
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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Mark, You may want to check the Pelican Board, sometimes they have 968 and S2 engine parts listed.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott M.
A dude on the 951 list (Hosram, or horsham or something like that) had access to a pile of NITB 968 pistons. He was from the middle east IIRC. I'll see if I can dig up the info.

Will 944 S2 pistons work for your application?
Thanks Scott,
That would be great. Yes I can use the S2 piston but I much prefer the 968.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Simard
I'm sure I saw a set of 968 pistons on ebay last week but there gone now, does that help?

It does if I can ever get my time machine working.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 09:06 PM
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but, you have to cut valve reliefs on the 944S2 pistons, right? (944S2 is the 3 liter 2valve version)

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Mark, 944 S2 and 968 have same 104mm bore, 88mm stroke, 2990cc and 16V head.

2.7L 944 (non S, last year model) has 104mm, 78.9mm, 2681cc and 8V head. This was done to allow factory to get away with just one piston style on non turbo four cylinder blocks. Or was it other way around, 100mm and 88mm.

Anyway. both 944 S4 and 968 pistons are usable.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mark kibort
but, you have to cut valve reliefs on the 944S2 pistons, right? (944S2 is the 3 liter 2valve version)

MK
944S & 944S2 are both 16V engines.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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H-P,
The 944S has 100mm pistons with 4 cutouts.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Simard
I'm sure I saw a set of 968 pistons on ebay last week but there gone now, does that help?
Originally Posted by mark anderson
It does if I can ever get my time machine working.
Let me guess. The time machine only needs some 968 pistons to get it going.

I guess they might not have as long of a sucess record yet, but aren't there one or more racers sucessfully using Nickasil plated blocks with custom forged pistons? Would that be a more economical way to go? Didn't Adam B. or Tony H. have some future stroker motor pistons laying around at one time? Might be worth checking with them.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry928GTS
Let me guess. The time machine only needs some 968 pistons to get it going.

I guess they might not have as long of a sucess record yet, but aren't there one or more racers sucessfully using Nickasil plated blocks with custom forged pistons? Would that be a more economical way to go? Didn't Adam B. or Tony H. have some future stroker motor pistons laying around at one time? Might be worth checking with them.
There are some racers out there with the Nicasil method but as far as I know none approach the hours and miles I've put on the stock Ausil so I'll stay with stock. Yes the pistons are cheaper but the block prep is more so the overall cost is not much different.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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I was thinkng 16 valver for 928s. what i should have said is 4 valve or 2 valve per cylinder. doesnt the S2 have 2 valve, not 4 valve per cylinder.

if it is a 2 valve and the 968 is a 4 valve, then the 2 valve pistons would have to be notched for the 4 valve. that was my only question. (point)

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H-P,
The 944S has 100mm pistons with 4 cutouts.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by cambria
H-P,
The 944S has 100mm pistons with 4 cutouts.
I know - I have one sitting right here on my desk. Just pointing out the S2 & S are both 4-valve pistons.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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MK,
both the S2 and 968 are 3.0L with 4valves per cylinder. How many times do we have to say it lol


Why the 968's over the S2? forged vs. cast? I know nothing about modified 928 engines. I've seen Tom's ex-Tilo car at my shop, but that is it
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