blown 87

I have bought some of the fuel lines for my 87.
It looks like I have all of the high pressure hoses that go into the engine compartment but one, the parts book calls for a # 92835608104 there is a note with the part # that says "see group 1/07/15, I have no idea what this means.

This is the hose that goes from the steel line that comes from the rear of the car and up to the log on the a/c suction line for cooling.

One of the hose that I got is a part # 92811035908, I do not see any way that is going to work in place of this (92835608104) hose. I am missing something here or does that hose go some place else?

Here are the hoses that I have so far.
92811027100
92811035904
92811036715
92811035908
92811026901

Also how critical is it to replace the hoses for the evaportive emissions system (charcoal canister)?

Any other fuel hoses that I should replace before I start driving this car?


Any thing else that I should do?

Here is a short list of what has been done so far.
Plugs, rotors, distributor caps.
New end caps for the radiator and radiator hoses.
Timing belt, water pump, tensioner rebuild, plastic bushings, bearings and pulleys for the timing belt.
Brake rotors, pads and dampers.
torque tube, convertor bearings, rear wheel bearings, reseal transmission, half shaft seals, rebuild axles, rear main seal, Constantine's torque shaft clamp, replaced the rivets in the rear flex plate with bolts.
Motor mounts, oil pan gasket

We have done a lot of other things that wont affect how the car runs.

We are going to reseal, and redo the intake and every thing that goes with that also IE, mass air flow sensor, hall effect sensor, knock sensors, IAC, pretty much all of the rubber hoses under the intake before we put many miles on it.

blown 87

Another question, is there any way to search for phrases like "Fuel lines" or "brake dampers" when I try it I get any post with either word in it.

worf928

That's PETSpeak for Model Group 1, Section 06, Page 15. Or in this case 1 07 107-15 lh-jetronic

And I'll bet you've been puzzling over 2/01/10 (or 2, 01, 201-10 "Fuel Tank")

I myself have spent a few hours this week with this puzzle.

What's 928 110 287 00? Is that the little U-hose between the damper and regulator? (My PET shows it as 928 110 271 02)

As far as I can tell it cannot. I have an '87 in-house now with a similar problem. This is what I've been able to determine so far (remember I have three other specimens to examine):

The output end of the regulator was changed as of my '88 to a standard fuel line coupling (compression fitting?) (EDIT: The '87 part I think uses a clamp fitting to the regulator.) The hose from this regulator to the A/C cooler 'log' is the 359 08 part. It looks the same for my '89 and '91 but takes a short path from the regulator directly to the 'log'. The '87's runs through another part - the 'console' to - I think - the 04 part.

Note in 107-15 part #9 called 'console' 928 110 640 01 that is listed as MY '87 only. The '87 I'm working on now seems to be missing this 'console' and a previous 'technician' made the later MY part (359 08) work with the regulator by using a 2-inch piece of fuel line hose and four hose clamps. In place of the missing 'console' they coupled the 08 part to your missing 081 04 part directly and then secured against vibration the resulting loose mess of hoses with a zip-tie.

I do not like this. But, I haven't yet determined the best way to deal with it. It looks like I should be able to get a newer regulator and 'upgrade' with the '88+ return feed (358 08). I don't have any good pictures of this 'missing' console so I'm not sure what it looks like or whether I should replace-to-spec or upgrade.

In summary: looks like you have the same problem that resulted in the 'fix' on the '87 I have.

Well, the plastic y-connector in the passenger wheel well to the canister hose is probably broken. If so you'll get a whiff of fuel when you decelerate with the passenger window rolled down. (I have stainless steel replacements. You can also order them from Nicole's website.) (Yeah - shameless plug )

I don't know about 'should' but I'm about to replace all those hoses on my '91 (and soon the '89 and later the '94). I'm also replacing (plan to replace and have part) the pressure line from the filter (928 356 053 00 - Part 20 in 201-05.)

You didn't list plugs and wires?
You might consider a preventative rebuild of your LH ECU if it looks original.

When I got my '89GT with 120k of hard miles and no maintenance records I did everything you've listed minus the auto-tranny stuff but plus a complete GTS clutch system. (EDIT: And I got to send the LH for rebuild - it died while the car was in surgery.)

I replaced the coils just because. And I cleaned the old heat sink paste (crud) from the bottom of the final injection stages and applied a new coating of 21st-century heat sink paste. (Per WSM and $2 to Radio Shack.)

I also rebuilt the calipers with new seals.

Looks like you're just about to be stylin' though.

Time for a supercharger

worf928

I wish.

H2

Please let us know if ALL the rubber hoses you order are still available. When I ordered, there was one that was NLA. Offhand I can't remember which one...may have been the U shaped one?

Also, I think it's hard to tell if a hose is bad or not since the design is kinda like a hose in a hose. At least that was what I'd been told.

Harvey

BrianG

I have had good success with having fuel lines rebuilt. I have disassmbled the original lines and had the local Bosch Hydraulic facility build new lines. They have had to modify their swage fittings a little but have been pleased with the results.

I have also located a resource that stocks the right size of metric fittings (60 degree face) for the 928 fuel system, however they are anodized aluminum so, while they look nice and modern, they do not look stock, in the least. Contact Rich at richb@fluidsysteminnovations.com in Florida. They can also build the whole hose if you provide the dimensions.

PorKen

You could remove the system and replace it with a hose connecting the line from the tank to the line which goes back and dumps behind the rear bumper, Euro style...

I found that if you use the [Search This Forum] dropdown (upper right), search words are AND'ed (all words), versus the main or advanced search, which is OR'ed (any word). Must be a CPU time thing.

BrianG

I see no "search this forum" button.

My upper right corner looks like this:


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PorKen

I guess it's a US only feature, 'not for export'.

It's at the top of the main 928 Forum page, under the page list; doesn't show in posts.

SharkSkin

Look for the word "Search" in the grey line just under the thread info and the line that says "Welcome <username>, Private messages, etc."

worf928

Crap. All these years I've been using "Advanced Search." I just did a few 'test' searches. Basic search seams more advanced than advanced.

Lean something everyday.

cambria

I think the hose that your looking for I got from 928 Int. for somewhere around $10. The hose is a bent hose, double wall, about 3/8" OD with hose clamps at each end. Go to thier site and search for the part number.

Ben

I wondered only today what that pipe was for behind the rear bumper.

BrianG

You sly dog! It's right there, after all!

Guess John thinks Edmonton, Alberta is in the USA!!

PorKen

On the early euros, that pipe goes directly from the separator tank over the right wheel well, to behind the bumper, terminated with a rubber thingy. I've seen federalized euros with a rubber hose connected to the pipe outlet under the bumper, which runs all the way to the engine. A small carbon cannister was put by the battery box, or in the engine compartment.

On early cars with the carbon cannister, the cannister overflow goes to the airbox. Starting in 86(.5?), the overflow is connected to a pipe which goes from the engine all the way back to behind the bumper. Oddly, the airbox still has an undrilled hose connector.

What I did was remove the carbon cannister and hoses, then connected the line from the tank, to the line to the bumper, under the coolant expansion tank. Our state emissions testing doesn't look for the system.