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Old 09-16-2006, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Ketchmi
Paul, the magical thing about this car is that it is so unique FROM THE FACTORY! The condition also has a lot to do with it. Sure, your car is the only one like it with the leather upgrades you have done, but you did them long after the car was manufactured. This one is so cool because it is factory original and almost perfect. It's like a diamond...you can find a normal 18k mile 94' GTS 5-speed (Good luck!) and then polish it or you can have this car. With enough money and time, the lowest S4 could look like this one but it wasn't ordered like this, does not have the "pedigree", is not a limited production, top of the heap gem like this one.
No argument with you on that point Dave. I actually agree.

My point was simply that if you find this type of intricate detail work beautiful, but was not one of the lucky few who could afford it from the factory, all is not lost. It can still be done at a fair enough cost.
I'm not taking anything away from this magnificent example and I thank you for bringing it to our attention.

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Old 09-16-2006, 07:29 PM
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Yup,

That car is truly unique. I love the leather cargo cover. Paul get busy on that one. Ill be the first in line.
The majority of us could never afford that car then or now.
Thank god for Paul's work. It's the next best thing for a "working stiff" and looks about as good as far as I can tell.

Rich

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Old 09-16-2006, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Vilhuer
Picture is from '92 MY Exclusive program brochure. It shows sample what was at the time available covered in leather.
WOW.

I'm puzzled by something though: The door lock *****. I've taken door panels off a lot now and that **** has to come off first. The center is a snap-in plastic cover for a Phillips head screw that holds the rest of the center ****.

Just exactly how would the parts of the **** be covered in leather and allow for non-destructive removal? A little piece of leather glued to the plastic center cover?
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Old 09-16-2006, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by worf928
A little piece of leather glued to the plastic center cover?
Most likely yes. Very thin leather and some material removed from stock plastic part where its mounted.
Old 09-16-2006, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Ketchmi
BTW, the vin is 0075, the Cup 2 wheels came on it and it was manufactured in May of 93'.
So these 19 early '94 MY cars were probably all done before actual '94 MY production start in July '93. Meaning Cup I wheel thing is not really early '94 MY thing but US only specialty caused most likely by slow sales at the time. This means all true '94 MY row cars were done with Cup II's and without RDK from the factory as there most likely weren't similar early '94's done for ROW markets. Very interesting outcome.
Old 09-16-2006, 08:16 PM
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Try this, it has the equipment list for the Pearglanz car.

http://www.928registry.org/1995-928GTS-Pearlglanz.htm
Old 09-16-2006, 08:17 PM
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Oh yeah, this car does have the RDK, still driving the owner nuts.
Old 09-16-2006, 08:22 PM
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Dave, those are Cup I's in your pictures like they should be in below 0080 VIN '94 MY RDK car. Its really '93 in a sense that is probably doesn't have pollen filter for example. If it were automatic it wouldn't have dynamic kickdown either.
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These are the wheels on it...http://www.wheelenhancement.com/inde...elDetail&id=31. We call them Cup 2's, I know that some call them Cup 1's.

These are what we call Cup 1's...http://www.wheelenhancement.com/inde...elDetail&id=26

It doesn't have the pollen filter.
Old 09-16-2006, 08:57 PM
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Dave, I know. Calling earlier wheel Cup II doesn't make much sense if Cup I cane after them but nothing prevents you from doing so.

Important thing here is anyway that car is really '93 MY in every way other than VIN. So Porsche made 91 '92 MY GTS with 718 option which they called '93 MY and 19 '93 MY GTS with same option which they called '94 MY. Cars themselves use same parts as real 'time of production' MY ROW models. These predend to be younger based on VIN alone. Nothing wrong with that. Its just interesting 928 history and good for owners to realise some parts are not same as on other same MY cars.
Old 09-16-2006, 09:13 PM
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The 93' GTS here in Provo (Bigs) has a build date of 01-92 but is still titled as a 93'. I think it's pretty common on higher end cars.
Old 09-16-2006, 09:58 PM
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Erkka,
What you say is correct. The earlier '94 VIN cars are exactly the same as late '93 and were usually built before the normal model year changeover. The S program VIN change applies to these cars. I also assume these are evidence of something odd - sales slowdown for sure, maybe a stall in production. These cars have C2 wheels, RDK and no pollen filter (so like a '93). They are of course newer - so there is that. My car 0066 was built in May '93 but not sold until September '94... (with 8 miles on the clock) - further evidence of a massive sales slowdown (its a well equipped popular color too). Still it is a newer car - with the delayed sale it was contemporary with the earliest '95's - go figure! No wonder the 928 didn't live on...can you imagine a dealer with a ~$90K car sat on the lot for a year!

So it is missing the '94 features which is actually fine with me - mines a manual so no dynamic kickdown (nice feature), I mostly like the RDK and I prefer C2 Cup1 wheels to Cup II's. I would like the pollen filter though!

Incidentally there is a difference in terminology here I think - I seem to recall deducing that original GTS wheel were known as C2 Cup wheels (as in Carrera 2 - I think) - the '92 GTS Brochure just calls these 'Carrera Cup' wheels), later '94 GTS's got Cup 2/Cup II wheels and that made for an apparently retroactive naming of Cup 1's for the C2 Cup wheels ( - so maybe slightly less obtuse would be C2 Cup 1's)

Very confusing given the almost similar naming between both.

So Cup 1 = (C2 Cup) was followed by Cup2 (or CupII)

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Geez, Chuck is back and he hasn't said a word about this one?
Old 09-18-2006, 07:39 PM
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Dave -

The RDK warning system can be bypassed if the owner wants to do that.

Here's a write-up, courtesy George Suennen:

http://sis125.berkeley.edu/928/wk-rdk.html
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Originally Posted by worf928
WOW.

I'm puzzled by something though: The door lock *****. I've taken door panels off a lot now and that **** has to come off first. The center is a snap-in plastic cover for a Phillips head screw that holds the rest of the center ****.

Just exactly how would the parts of the **** be covered in leather and allow for non-destructive removal? A little piece of leather glued to the plastic center cover?
Yes, it is a VERY thin piece of leather. My black GTS has leather everywhere including the manual door look *****. Mine do have a few marks on them from being removed.

Originally Posted by Ketchmi
Geez, Chuck is back and he hasn't said a word about this one?
I did see this and when I get full operation of my computer (another reason I haven't been here - long story) I will add the pics you posted. It is an absolutely awesome looking car!

PS. I'll be calling you this week about powder coating the intake and cam covers.


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