Rebuilt Oil Cooler Lines?
06-11-2006, 10:28 PM
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Rebuilt Oil Cooler Lines?
I got some leakers on my 86, and I am under there removing and cleaning.
Anybody ever have them rebuilt, or did they just buy new? They are a liability at 200k, because they can pump all 8 quarts in about 4 seconds.
Anybody ever have them rebuilt, or did they just buy new? They are a liability at 200k, because they can pump all 8 quarts in about 4 seconds.
06-11-2006, 10:32 PM
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I had mine rebuilt a couple weeks ago by a local company. I contacted over 20 local hose rebuilders and these guys were the only ones that would do it. The total cost for those two lines and a PS line including rush shipping of parts and sales tax was $84. They were done with Aeroquip lines and I think Aeroquip fittings.
Not a great picture, but all I have. The grey blobs on them are anti seize fingerprints.
Not a great picture, but all I have. The grey blobs on them are anti seize fingerprints.
06-11-2006, 10:43 PM
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I just bought a GTS oil cooler and I want to fit it to my '85 S2. What I need to know is... what is the size of the fitting at the engine? And second, of the two ports...which one is the outlet and which is the return? I'm going to have the hoses built with a "T" so that I can fit my oil temperature gauge to the outlet side.
I have the cooler already; What I need is the size of the fitting at the engine block. Anyone?
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I have the cooler already; What I need is the size of the fitting at the engine block. Anyone?
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06-11-2006, 11:05 PM
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Its big normy. I want to say 18, but I can't be quoted.
06-11-2006, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyingDog
I had mine rebuilt a couple weeks ago by a local company. I contacted over 20 local hose rebuilders and these guys were the only ones that would do it. The total cost for those two lines and a PS line including rush shipping of parts and sales tax was $84. They were done with Aeroquip lines and I think Aeroquip fittings.
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06-11-2006, 11:21 PM
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I guess they were an Aeroquip dealer. They had mostly Goodyear advertising in the office. I just looked up their website. It appears they are a bigger company than I thought. http://smp.applied.com/ I went to the Frederick, MD location.
I should clarify something that should be obvious from the pic. They used the original hard parts except for the crimp ferrules. The odd metric sized ferrules had to be special ordered. Apparently, 2-part fittings are the old way and most companies will not perform the work and may not be able to even order the seperate ferrules. The guys said that our hoses are not to spec. The hard lines, hoses, and ferrules do not match in size. It's like Porsche just found some pieces that would fit together and used them. They also said the hard lines are very soft compared to modern hard lines and fittings. They were afraid of crushing them with the crimping machine.
I should clarify something that should be obvious from the pic. They used the original hard parts except for the crimp ferrules. The odd metric sized ferrules had to be special ordered. Apparently, 2-part fittings are the old way and most companies will not perform the work and may not be able to even order the seperate ferrules. The guys said that our hoses are not to spec. The hard lines, hoses, and ferrules do not match in size. It's like Porsche just found some pieces that would fit together and used them. They also said the hard lines are very soft compared to modern hard lines and fittings. They were afraid of crushing them with the crimping machine.
06-12-2006, 12:51 AM
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You are on the right track with replacement. Mine went about a month ago on the '85
"They are a liability at 200k, because they can pump all 8 quarts in about 4 seconds."
It took about 6 seconds to empty my oil pan @ 80 km/h. SMOKE to beat the band from oil on the exhaust. The ensuing oil slick slicked up my back tires and I almost lost the rear end as I was on the gas passing some one. Had the car towed to the Stealership and they quoted me $ 500 cdn for the lines + installation + engine wash.
They actually run about $ 200.00
http://www.mailordercentral.com/928i...107%20037%2005
I went with new ones as I was able to find a source in Canada for the same price as above ( except in $ Cdn). Otherwise 928 intl was getting the call but sounds like Matt has a less expensive option.
"They are a liability at 200k, because they can pump all 8 quarts in about 4 seconds."
It took about 6 seconds to empty my oil pan @ 80 km/h. SMOKE to beat the band from oil on the exhaust. The ensuing oil slick slicked up my back tires and I almost lost the rear end as I was on the gas passing some one. Had the car towed to the Stealership and they quoted me $ 500 cdn for the lines + installation + engine wash.
They actually run about $ 200.00
http://www.mailordercentral.com/928i...107%20037%2005
I went with new ones as I was able to find a source in Canada for the same price as above ( except in $ Cdn). Otherwise 928 intl was getting the call but sounds like Matt has a less expensive option.
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06-12-2006, 02:28 AM
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Interesting experience Rich. It only happened to me in my neighborhood.
Mmm - 4 rolls of paper towels, a gallon of simple green, and my wife and I cleaning up an oil slick a 10:00pm. Fun.
Mmm - 4 rolls of paper towels, a gallon of simple green, and my wife and I cleaning up an oil slick a 10:00pm. Fun.
06-12-2006, 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingDog
I guess they were an Aeroquip dealer. They had mostly Goodyear advertising in the office. I just looked up their website. It appears they are a bigger company than I thought. http://smp.applied.com/ I went to the Frederick, MD location.
I should clarify something that should be obvious from the pic. They used the original hard parts except for the crimp ferrules. The odd metric sized ferrules had to be special ordered. Apparently, 2-part fittings are the old way and most companies will not perform the work and may not be able to even order the seperate ferrules. The guys said that our hoses are not to spec. The hard lines, hoses, and ferrules do not match in size. It's like Porsche just found some pieces that would fit together and used them. They also said the hard lines are very soft compared to modern hard lines and fittings. They were afraid of crushing them with the crimping machine.
I should clarify something that should be obvious from the pic. They used the original hard parts except for the crimp ferrules. The odd metric sized ferrules had to be special ordered. Apparently, 2-part fittings are the old way and most companies will not perform the work and may not be able to even order the seperate ferrules. The guys said that our hoses are not to spec. The hard lines, hoses, and ferrules do not match in size. It's like Porsche just found some pieces that would fit together and used them. They also said the hard lines are very soft compared to modern hard lines and fittings. They were afraid of crushing them with the crimping machine.
The funny thing is that I have some -12 SS lines that may work for this, if I can get the adaptors.
06-12-2006, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by BrendanC
The funny thing is that I have some -12 SS lines that may work for this, if I can get the adaptors.
06-12-2006, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingDog
I had mine rebuilt a couple weeks ago by a local company. I contacted over 20 local hose rebuilders and these guys were the only ones that would do it.
Originally Posted by hinchcliffe
Find a local hydrulic shop. I had them rebuild the line on my '87 for $25.
Originally Posted by Normy
And second, of the two ports...which one is the outlet and which is the return?
I'm going to have the hoses built with a "T" so that I can fit my oil temperature gauge to the outlet side.
06-12-2006, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by SwayBar
The following is what I did too:
Well actually, I went to a local truck-repair shop, but you get the idea and is another option for you to consider.
The bottom is the outlet to the cooler.
N!, no need to get so fancy-schmancy! It's much simpler to use one of the existing plugs above the oil-lines on the block and drill and tap into one of them. Of the two, I would do the larger one as the smaller one's spring is very strong, thus making it VERY difficult to get the plug back on without lots of LOUD, heart-felt cussing. Okay, Jean-Louis from 928EuroGroup.com came over and finally got it back on!
Well actually, I went to a local truck-repair shop, but you get the idea and is another option for you to consider.
The bottom is the outlet to the cooler.
N!, no need to get so fancy-schmancy! It's much simpler to use one of the existing plugs above the oil-lines on the block and drill and tap into one of them. Of the two, I would do the larger one as the smaller one's spring is very strong, thus making it VERY difficult to get the plug back on without lots of LOUD, heart-felt cussing. Okay, Jean-Louis from 928EuroGroup.com came over and finally got it back on!
Now...are you sure that it is possible to drill and tap into that plug? I thought those were the oil pressure relief valve and the pressure regulator respectively. Good idea, surely better than a fitting in a line or a hole drilled/tapped into the oil pan!
Thanx-
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