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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tw1963
Here is the situation under the 'Somethingism' that is occurring in Australia and the totalitarian BS we are being slowly strangled with.

Radar detectors of any kind are illegal and speed cameras are being installed by the thousand. Our justice system will allow a person who burgles a hundred houses to walk free with no consequence but if a law abiding citizen does 3km'h over the speed limit that person can lose their licence and be fined hundreds of dollars. Think about that, 3 km/h!!!

My favourite is the soon to be implemented grid for number plate monitoring of moving vehicles. As you pass through waypoints your average speed is continuously calculated through each waypoint. If you arrive at the next point too quickly then a fine will be issued. They don't know when you actually drove too fast but the computer says that you must've committed an offence somewhere at sometime so you make another donation to the government coffers. We have very little recourse in the courts and even have to pay a fee if we want to see a copy of the photo from a speed camera. Its a joke.

Even parking enforcement is being done by camera now. Cameras that were supposed to make us safer are now being used to record our number plates when we park. If we overstay the space then it generates a ticket that is posted the next day.

It is frightening the technology that is being unleashed on the population in this country. The excuse constantly used is 'The War on Terror' but the cameras that were supposed to protect us are now being used to control us. The lame response of the drones is that 'If you aren't doing anything wrong then you've got nothing to worry about'.

Aside from the unease, the hardest thing to accept is that it is only going to get worse.


Oh well, there's always beer.

Wow! That's scary! Remind me to never move to Australia! "Your papers please, citizen!" Next thing you'll see is RF ID tags under the skin and proximity sensors so they can track people. Of course if you follow the law, you have nothing to worry about... except the law itself! Scary stuff IMHO!
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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That discription of Australia sounds exactly what the good ole USA is quickly heading towards if we continue to allow it to happen. All under Big Bro's reasoning of protecting us.

Heck they already use the "you got here too fast" reasoning on the Florida toll roads. A guy with a superbike told me about how he & buddies were in triple digits from one toll booth to another. When they stamped the 1st guy's ticket at the 2nd booth, the lady got on the phone & within a NY minute a FHP squad car was there & gave them all a speeding ticket. Was as easy as the times stamped on the tickets showing they simply went too fast between the two toll booths. They calculated their avg speed based upon the time taken to travel between the two booths and that was that!
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 05:40 PM
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Many many moons ago, I used to deliver pizza.

At arround 1:00am on a Wed night during a snowstorm I have a delivery to make in my camouflaged 1977 Austin Mini. (The real Mini, not one of those giant ones made by BMW).

Driving along through the snow on bald tires (why spend money for tires when you can spend it on beer at that age?) I notice headlights behind me as I blow through a stopsign. Looking carefully in my rearview mirror, I notice that the headlights go through the stopsign also without a stop. No problem...

Three stopsigns later I pull up to the house to make the pizza delivery. Stepping out of the car, I see a police cruiser pulling up. Oh oh.

Officer: Oh, you're delivering pizza? Ok, come see me after you deliver it.

I go to the door to deliver the pizza, and mention to the person that the cop at the end of his driveway is about to give me a ticket because I was trying to get his pizza to him fast. This of couse gets me a good tip

I walk back to the waiting officer.

Officer: You went through 3 stopsigns, you were going WAY too fast for the road conditions, your muffler is loud, and one of your taillights is out!

Me:........ Ummm......

Officer: Where do you work?

Me: Gigi's Pizza in Pointe-Claire.*

Officer: Oh. Fix the tail light and slow down.

With that he pulls away


*Gigi's Pizza
The police officers would regularly pull up behind the restaurent for pizza. They would order a large pizza, two subs, two fries and a couple of cokes. Then they would ask the owner how much. He would usually say $5. Seems like it was a good idea
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Old Apr 19, 2006 | 11:15 PM
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Speaking from Australia. A while back a friend got a speeding ticket from a camera on a day when he was not only not in the suburb but not even in the city. When he explained this to the police officer in the records department they said, "well we have your licence plate and car on our picture here". He asked to have it sent out but they said "we don't do that.." You have to come in and check it. So a lost days work and money, time and pain in the butt dealing with the police administration and he got to see the picture. The licence plate had the same number as his car, but it was a completely different make and model to his.

The thing is they make it so difficult for people to argue that most people give up and pay anyway, hence just a money making system, no real justice or enforcement. They could have posted out a copy, or emailed it, they could even have checked the licence plate against the registered vehicle details when he said it wasn't his car and that would have told them instantly that it wasn't the same vehicle. He did considerjust refusing to pay and making them take him to court just so he could show they were all idiots but he's self employed and that heaps of time off work for no pay, again the "make it so difficult that people will pay just to get rid of it" philosophy.

The other thing we have is a 40kph speed limt around schools. Now I have no problems with going slow around kids, I always slow down anyway, but the worst offenders are the actual parents picking up kids, but the police set up their speed camera's and just catch people driving by. The blocking of the entire road by women in station wagons, people throwing open car doors without checking for approaching vehicles and etc are ignored. And thereare some poeple who want to make the speed limit change around schools permanent instead of just in shcool entering and leaving hours. So at 4 in the morning on Christmas day you could get picked up for doing 45 kph past an empty school.

Have fun, my P car rarely gets over 4,000 rpm even in second gear, dammit!!

Steve
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Drifter
How about those electronic camaras that take pictures of your car speeding and then send it to you by mail with a fine! Last month I received one in the mail. I was so pissed I sent them a picture of my middle finger. Recently they responded and sent me a picture of handcuffs!
Now that was funny.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 01:34 AM
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Hmm
I might have heard a story from someone I knew that went like this:

Driving home from work in Sacramento on a Sunday.....cruising about 90 on the freeway....no traffic....see a cop inbetween Lodi and Sacramento going the other way....in the middle of nowhere....keep the cruise on 90...watch for dust in the center divide.....never see it...figure the last offramp was WAY back there.....keep cruising at 90mph....get bored....run it up to about 140 (top speed of that car) with the A/C on.....get into town...cars running hot...slow down to 60 to let the turbo cool down before getting off the freeway.....drive 60 for a few miles...almost get to my offramp....then a CHP fly's up behind me (opps my friend)..end up with a 105 ticket.... Heres the kicker:

In court the 26 year CHP veteran says "I was going 136mph, the offical top speed of the standard issue 5 speed Ford Mustang Police interceptor to catch up to the suspect!" Of course he didn't have an answer for what my pace was? No radar back then...just his opinion that I was going "more than 100" It sucked....that ticket was $1200 back in 1991!
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 01:48 AM
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He was safe doing that speed of course as he was a trained professional.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by heinrich
He was safe doing that speed of course as he was a trained professional.
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If you can't beat em...join em!! :>)
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 02:35 AM
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Heinrich beat me to it. I was going to ask how many miles he had been traveling at 135. It seemed like a few. No threat to the community from his speed right? The pot calling the kettle black if you ask me. Sometimes I wonder if their aren't those among us with more air in their heads than brains.

I have a similar story about a bear in Utah who saw me going the other way. No close median turnaround spots. I got lost fast. Later down the road he was coming like I had raped his mother. No way could HE have jeopardized the community and the traffic on the freeway by such behavior that could have gotten ME jailed, right?? He had a functioning brain.....which he put into action AFTER he caught up to me (and I was at the limit when he did). Don't know about the part before he caught up to me. Got a warning. Glad he didn't hurt anyone in his zeal to stop me from hurting anyone, though I am certain he was travelling faster than I was in a lesser machine and for a longer time. Could have been Bigs on that road and he might have smashed right into him as he was trying to save the world from someone operating a superior machine in the manner for which it had been designed, but only slightly. Well, maybe in another life I'll understand....(scratching head).
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 02:40 AM
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This was over 20 years ago... I had just finished putting a fresh transmission in my '67 R/T and took it out for a run to check out the kickdown, shift points, etc.

Nearby there is a sleepy little side street that at the end forks to the right to continue on as another sleepy little side street, or to the left(well, almost straight ahead) it became a few hundred yards of straight entrance ramp to the freeway.

On the side street, I laid into it, heading for the ramp. Yep, the kickdown worked, down to 1st at 50, struggling for traction. Hooked up, went WOT, hit second about at the fork in the road. In that car, hitting second at WOT happened at about 75mph, and usually involved two black scratches on the road 30-50 feet long and two big puffs of tire smoke. Turns out all this happened right in front of Mr. CHP who was napping behind the white barricade at the fork in the road, waiting for someone like me to come along.

I hit 3rd somewhere north of 125 and let off, then pulled off at the next exit. I swung into the nearest parking lot and popped the hood to tweak the kickdown adjustment a little bit, and just as I laid my hands on it Mr. Close Encounters came a wailin' and a blinkin' and a screechin in behind me. He jumped out and came strutting up to me, asking "What the hell do you think you're doing?" I told him I had just put a new tranny in and I was making some adjustments. He started to bluster and huff and puff, saying "I've never seen anyone pull anything like that right in front of me, blah blah blah" so I told him, truthfully, that I never saw him and would he please explain what he was talking about. He told me where he was sitting, that he saw me blow past him so fast he couldn't even see what kind of car it was. Uh-huh. "So," I said, said I, "I guess you didn't get the guy's plate then, did you?"

He gave me a long look.... while I gave him a long look.... and finally he said, "No, I guess I didn't. Did you see anyone tearing around here?" I said "No, I'm just making some adjustments here". He seemed to deflate a couple notches, back to normal I'd say, then started to ask me questions about the car, what I'd done to it(not much at that point), etc. Finally, he said, "Well, that's a hell of a nice car, just watch yourself and don't make me have to give you a ticket", got back in his car and left.

Lesson learned: Don't admit to anything.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 04:06 AM
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I've already told the story about my encounter in Honolulu with a solo bike cop who chased my 911-E one night on his hog but couldn't catch me; I never knew he was there. He told me about it at a Porsche Club meeting later which I'm sure he attended to give a "safety" speech, but I'm sure he really meant to meet me. He said he never wanted to see me do that in front of him again, and we became friends. Guess I just wasn't looking in the rear view mirror, and assumed nothing could be going faster than me. Guess i was correct.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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Dave LOL that was a classic
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 01:45 PM
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You can be sure that the next time I did this I checked the area thoroughly beforehand...
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 12:48 AM
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I've been pulled ove three times in my 84' since I got it. Got a ticket for doing 90 in a 70 the first time. The second time was coming home at nite from taking my daughter to a movie. I jumped on it for about 5 seconds and there just happened to be a cop lurking in the shadows when I was playing. He was understanding to the fact that I was just "playing" for a few seconds. I also think he let me off due to the fact that I still have my military ID and that got him asking if I knew so and so down at the Guard unit. Last time was on the way home from SALT last year. Got off with a slow down sir.
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