Keys made by Locksmith
10-07-2010, 05:18 AM
#16
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Dane, you've really lost your way.
We know about 928's here and they have very different key types so a normal locksmith isn't equipped to handle them.
We know about 928's here and they have very different key types so a normal locksmith isn't equipped to handle them.
10-07-2010, 10:08 AM
#17
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10-07-2010, 10:22 AM
#18
Three Wheelin'
I have always had Porsche cut a key from the vin number. My concern, cutting a key from a old worn key could cause problems...i am probably wrong .....but i have done this on 7 Porsche with no concerns.
jpc
jpc
10-08-2010, 01:48 PM
#20
Three Wheelin'
Actually i disagree about the key cut from a vin regarding how well it functions. I found it always is a firmer fit and the functioning of the locking mechanism is better.
Yes, in most cases a locksmith can make a key from a vin. I had a car trailored from Florida and the truck driver lost my key. We had to have a key made from the vin. It worked fine.
New cars might be different story, especially when they need programed to the car for theft issue.
What makes a 928 different on the keys. You are saying Porsche can't make a key for a car they built? I can only see problems if someone swapped out the lock mech with another one.
Anyways, just my 2 cents, i have done this with ever Porsche i listed below. Except the 928, but i will do this soon because i can't stand the cheap keys the car came with. They look like they were made at a hardware store.
jpc
Yes, in most cases a locksmith can make a key from a vin. I had a car trailored from Florida and the truck driver lost my key. We had to have a key made from the vin. It worked fine.
New cars might be different story, especially when they need programed to the car for theft issue.
What makes a 928 different on the keys. You are saying Porsche can't make a key for a car they built? I can only see problems if someone swapped out the lock mech with another one.
Anyways, just my 2 cents, i have done this with ever Porsche i listed below. Except the 928, but i will do this soon because i can't stand the cheap keys the car came with. They look like they were made at a hardware store.
jpc
10-08-2010, 01:55 PM
#21
Rennlist Member
Yes.
When they shifted the location of their key reproduction machine in the US, the key making guy left.
So what we are seeing since is great variability in keys from Vins.
My experience is in Feb/Mar of 2010 with Porsche via a supplier with leverage and connectivity with them.
I researched other's experiences prior, so we knew it was a crapshoot going in.
Any questions?
Want me to post the pictures of the two keys side by side?
When they shifted the location of their key reproduction machine in the US, the key making guy left.
So what we are seeing since is great variability in keys from Vins.
My experience is in Feb/Mar of 2010 with Porsche via a supplier with leverage and connectivity with them.
I researched other's experiences prior, so we knew it was a crapshoot going in.
Any questions?
Want me to post the pictures of the two keys side by side?
10-08-2010, 02:02 PM
#23
Rennlist Member
I offered, since I persuaded the supplier to try it despite known risk, so that the supplier did not get stuck with it.
But, the supplier reported to me that Porsche accepted the responsibility.
I have both still. Will post pic as soon as I find it. Nuance differences, but enough to matter. Second key fit perfectly in the locks. First key would turn only one door lock only one direction. I might be able to dress the first key with a file to make it work. It is missing metal, as well as having excess though.
Meanwhile, the whole process took so long that by the time the second key arrived, I had bought a full set of locks from kccampro and installed them.
The moral of the story is same as before: Take digital photos of your 928 keys, label them, and store the file safely. Then you can employ the Australian guys to make a key from the photo. They know the linear spacing of the tumblers and are familiar with the depth of each of the 5 possible tumblers at each location. From the photo, they decipher the tumbler # and the position occupied and know how to cut the keys.
Yes, Porsche should be able to do the same, at least with the VIN, in a precise manner. Its just the way it is. Can't explain it.
Will replace with the original set of locks / key to match VIN when my daughter returns the car.
But, the supplier reported to me that Porsche accepted the responsibility.
I have both still. Will post pic as soon as I find it. Nuance differences, but enough to matter. Second key fit perfectly in the locks. First key would turn only one door lock only one direction. I might be able to dress the first key with a file to make it work. It is missing metal, as well as having excess though.
Meanwhile, the whole process took so long that by the time the second key arrived, I had bought a full set of locks from kccampro and installed them.
The moral of the story is same as before: Take digital photos of your 928 keys, label them, and store the file safely. Then you can employ the Australian guys to make a key from the photo. They know the linear spacing of the tumblers and are familiar with the depth of each of the 5 possible tumblers at each location. From the photo, they decipher the tumbler # and the position occupied and know how to cut the keys.
Yes, Porsche should be able to do the same, at least with the VIN, in a precise manner. Its just the way it is. Can't explain it.
Will replace with the original set of locks / key to match VIN when my daughter returns the car.
Last edited by Landseer; 10-08-2010 at 02:35 PM.
08-18-2012, 04:31 AM
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Most of the time, in order to repair a lock, Locksmith Docklands will simply replace parts of the lock with similar, or common parts. The fitting of keys to replace lost keys for homes and automobiles is one of the most common jobs locksmiths face.
08-18-2012, 10:12 AM
#25
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Charles, that's a good point. Problem is in the execution.
Repairing and replacing the innards of the 928 locks is DIY and well-documented here on rennlist.
I've rekeyed a bunch myself.
As commonplace as one thinks it is to recut and replace keys, the accessories needed to cut a 928 key aren't common amongst locksmiths, at least not in the USA.
Are you saying that the London shop, for a fact, has the ability to cut the 928 key? What is the process, send them a lock, they send a matching key? Their website says nothing about this capability. Looks like a run of the mill locksmith to me just from the link.
Repairing and replacing the innards of the 928 locks is DIY and well-documented here on rennlist.
I've rekeyed a bunch myself.
As commonplace as one thinks it is to recut and replace keys, the accessories needed to cut a 928 key aren't common amongst locksmiths, at least not in the USA.
Are you saying that the London shop, for a fact, has the ability to cut the 928 key? What is the process, send them a lock, they send a matching key? Their website says nothing about this capability. Looks like a run of the mill locksmith to me just from the link.
