fuel line replacement
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I have been having an increased problem with starting, if i prime the system ( key off - key on about 4 times) it will start every time.
Today i see a drip of gas on the floor. It is coming from the front side of the tank ( toward the engine). Removed the cover plate over the pump/filter, appears to be the line from the filter up to the engine compartment somewhere under the gas tank strap..
Can i repair / replace line without dropping the tank, as it is inside the prootection plate that is attached to the hold down(up) straps?
Any hints - suggestions?
Many thanks.
I have been having an increased problem with starting, if i prime the system ( key off - key on about 4 times) it will start every time.
Today i see a drip of gas on the floor. It is coming from the front side of the tank ( toward the engine). Removed the cover plate over the pump/filter, appears to be the line from the filter up to the engine compartment somewhere under the gas tank strap..
Can i repair / replace line without dropping the tank, as it is inside the prootection plate that is attached to the hold down(up) straps?
Any hints - suggestions?
Many thanks.
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You should be able to fix this without dropping the tank. It would be a good idea to drain the tank because you are going to have to drop the "tank strap"...the bracket that holds the gas tank up. You are going to have to disconnect the hose at the pump anyways to take the line off. Four 13mm bolts holds the bracket up. The pump/filter is positioned on the bracket and can be removed by just loosening the outside 10mm nuts and lifting off the bracket.
Once the tank is empty, it should stay secure after the bracket is removed as it is held up by hoses and the level sender plug....and has conformed to its area. Drop the bracket and you will see the pump/filter/lines/wiring is laying in the bracket channel.
You can take it from here!
Good luck!
(added) BTW you may want to put a jack stand under the tank after the bracket is off just in case it wants to hang down. This will keep unnecessary pressure off the hoses
Once the tank is empty, it should stay secure after the bracket is removed as it is held up by hoses and the level sender plug....and has conformed to its area. Drop the bracket and you will see the pump/filter/lines/wiring is laying in the bracket channel.
You can take it from here!
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(added) BTW you may want to put a jack stand under the tank after the bracket is off just in case it wants to hang down. This will keep unnecessary pressure off the hoses
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Thanks, Keith.
I have the filter, check valve to replace anyway, so sounds like a plan.
BTW, I'm in Poway (SD) , where in Socal are you?
Neil
I have the filter, check valve to replace anyway, so sounds like a plan.
BTW, I'm in Poway (SD) , where in Socal are you?
Neil
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Just be careful about letting the tank hang by the hoses. There are some relatively delicate plastic fittings where the hoses attach to the tank, and you don't want to snap those off.
Just keep the tank supported as Keith says(even if empty) and you'll be fine.
I just dropped my tank over New Year's weekend, and I had seepage at the banjo fitting on the end of the pump. Close inspection revealed that it was the copper washer, and the hose looks fine. Get plenty of copper washers for the job, plus several extra. Also note that the fuel filter requires a different size copper washer than the hose(in case you decide to futz with that).
Just keep the tank supported as Keith says(even if empty) and you'll be fine.
I just dropped my tank over New Year's weekend, and I had seepage at the banjo fitting on the end of the pump. Close inspection revealed that it was the copper washer, and the hose looks fine. Get plenty of copper washers for the job, plus several extra. Also note that the fuel filter requires a different size copper washer than the hose(in case you decide to futz with that).
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Yup, dropped cover plate, gas everywhere! Fuel line from filter forward is leaking at union just upside from filter. Replaced filter and check valve, now headed out to get fuel line rebuilt ( appears not available anywhere in us, dealer or aftermarket) so will give Napa a try :-)
Thanks to all for feedback,
Neil
Thanks to all for feedback,
Neil
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Neil,
My tank has been out for a few weeks. Gathering parts for all the While your in theres. My Fuel line had been sitting in a puddle of fuel for who knows how long down by the pump so I'm sending out to be rebuilt. Sending to classic tube in NY. They did a great job on my engine bay fuel lines. I'm doing the following (Just venting!!
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New tank, fuel line rebuild, powder coat strap and service cover, repaint rear bumper cover, new battery box, new fuel pumps (2), new fuel filter, new fuel accumulator, many other miscs, scrub down and clean 26 years of dirt and grime in fenderwells, and near tank. Damn, I'm gonna be busy!!
My tank has been out for a few weeks. Gathering parts for all the While your in theres. My Fuel line had been sitting in a puddle of fuel for who knows how long down by the pump so I'm sending out to be rebuilt. Sending to classic tube in NY. They did a great job on my engine bay fuel lines. I'm doing the following (Just venting!!
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New tank, fuel line rebuild, powder coat strap and service cover, repaint rear bumper cover, new battery box, new fuel pumps (2), new fuel filter, new fuel accumulator, many other miscs, scrub down and clean 26 years of dirt and grime in fenderwells, and near tank. Damn, I'm gonna be busy!!
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Chuck,
I've replaced all the same parts, but this damn fuel line ( 928.356.053) from filter forward is frustrating. Local shops won't touch it as a rebuild because the fittings are tough to remove - particularly the top one, the dealers/aftermarket quote 110 to 130+ for it, plus up to 20% to expedite from Germany. Used parts don't exist!
Anyone in San Diego reading this know of a good shop that can rebuild, let me know, please!
Good luck on your rebuild...
Neil
I've replaced all the same parts, but this damn fuel line ( 928.356.053) from filter forward is frustrating. Local shops won't touch it as a rebuild because the fittings are tough to remove - particularly the top one, the dealers/aftermarket quote 110 to 130+ for it, plus up to 20% to expedite from Germany. Used parts don't exist!
Anyone in San Diego reading this know of a good shop that can rebuild, let me know, please!
Good luck on your rebuild...
Neil
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Neil,
No worries dude. Send it to classic tube http://www.classictube.com/
they'll take care of it. No one in DFW would touch my engine bay fuel lines either. They charged me $80 total for the 2 lines. They came back looking better than new. Looks like they even re-cad plated the ends. They do all old musclecars, classics, imports, etc. Turn around was about 2 weeks. I'm sending the long line out this week (fuel pump to fuel accumulator-approx 3.5 feet long) because like yours, it's no longer available either.
Hope it works out for you!
No worries dude. Send it to classic tube http://www.classictube.com/
they'll take care of it. No one in DFW would touch my engine bay fuel lines either. They charged me $80 total for the 2 lines. They came back looking better than new. Looks like they even re-cad plated the ends. They do all old musclecars, classics, imports, etc. Turn around was about 2 weeks. I'm sending the long line out this week (fuel pump to fuel accumulator-approx 3.5 feet long) because like yours, it's no longer available either.
Hope it works out for you!
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I was recently able to buy genuine engine bay pressure line from steel to engine, but return hose is NLA. The old pressure line was in such good condition, it didnt seem worth bothering with the return line. Also got genuine filter to chassis rubber hose through dealer. The short return hose going into the tank return is NOT sold separately, only with the whole steel return line (guess who has a spare?), I just pulled the old rubber off (not hard to do either), and clipped a new piece of hose in place.
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