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Old 01-13-2006 | 03:05 PM
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Ernest,

The Anti Sieze goes on the threads of the sleeve, not between the shock & Sleeve.. (That's where the JB Weld goes..)
Old 01-13-2006 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RDS928S
Ok,

the 928S is at the shop. By the end of the day I should be able to post the results of the install and hopefully an evaluation of the performance upgrade.
Unfortunetly I wont be able to snap any pics. Something called "reporting to work" conflicted with that idea.
Bill- I wish I had ordered Carl's external adjusting tool. I have seen it on his web site. I guess I will buy it any way for future tweeking.
Eurotire will be adjusting the shocks via the Koni manual which involves compression and turning by hand before they are installed.
My springs are stock. Can any suggest the proper shock setting for this set up?
Other suspension upgrades already installed include 928 Motorsports motor mounts, solid steering rack bushings and front & rear poly graphite sway bar bushings.
Regards Rich
Have them set the shocks mid-way, maybe a bit towards hard and order the tool to adjust to taste later. DR sells the tool as well. I will add I found the compression damping too soft, and that is not adjustable. The shocks would have to be revalved for that. Others report the Koni's are quite firm, but that was not my experience.
Old 01-13-2006 | 05:00 PM
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I agree with Bill. My compression damping is rather soft. I guess that makes for a softer ride. My 914/6 with Bilsteins doesn't ride nearly so softly and you won't fall asleep at the wheel in that car. But on the 928, my rebound is too soft with Konis set too soft.
Old 01-13-2006 | 05:51 PM
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Bill/Ron,

thanks.
Ok i will go with firm settings then.
Picking up the car in 1 hour. Apparently no problems with the controversial threaded sleeves,etc.
The ride home should be sweet.

Thanks for the setting advice
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Old 01-13-2006 | 07:11 PM
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Excellent. Hope you like it. Take it out to your favorite twisty road and evaluate the new shocks.
Old 01-13-2006 | 08:05 PM
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I've installed three sets of Koni's on three different 928's. Two of them adjusted perfectly the first try, the third one the threaded sleeve just spun with the adjusting nut. BUT, we used 5 minute epoxy and 10 minutes later we were able to adjust the koni's to the required setting. No need to wait 24 hours for JB weld to set up, there are lots of faster epoxies out there.

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Old 01-13-2006 | 08:27 PM
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Ok boys,

Koni install compelted!!.
No problems. The threaded sleeves fit snuggly with no issues.
Konis were set to medium. The car feels invincible after the alignment and corner balance.
No more Cadillac ride over bumps and dips.
Handles almost as nice as my 911 track car.

Thanks again to those who assisted.

Rich

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Old 01-13-2006 | 08:32 PM
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Glad to hear it, Rich! Enjoy the new ride.
Old 01-14-2006 | 12:36 AM
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Thanks Bill,

I guess I'll have to wait to let her rip.

you guys are lucky stiffs on the west coast!.
No sooner do I get my daily ride tweeked to perfection. The snow gods let go. Looks like another round of rain, snow, salt and crushed stone (yes our town actually sprinkles crushed stone on the roads for traction) and potholes in NJ.


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Has anyone ever changed a set of Koni's after JB welding them?
Is it possible to get the collar off? With heat perhaps?
Has anyone freed up the adjuster nut frozen on the sleeve from age and elements?
Old 06-04-2006 | 01:56 AM
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Hi Ralph,
I have freed up my corroded rear adjusters on my '87. It takes a while with penetrating oil and working it back and forth. I think I heated the adjusting nut too, then more oil, wait, tap on it, use a sharp scribe to dig/scratch the dirt and corrosion out of the thread grooves.

I kept my adjusting sleeve from turning by welding a small bump on the Koni support ring. Just a second with the wire feed is all it takes. Immediately put a wet rag over the weld spot after welding. File a notch in the sleeve to fit over the bump and the sleeve won't turn and it's easy to disassemble if you need to in the future.

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Has anyone ever changed a set of Koni's after JB welding them?
Is it possible to get the collar off? With heat perhaps?
Has anyone freed up the adjuster nut frozen on the sleeve from age and elements?
Old 06-04-2006 | 03:02 AM
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I've had no problems adjusting ride height after the Konis were installed. Initally the adjuster on one shock spun, but that was while the coilover was still off the car when I was adjusting the static length to match the original setup. Once on the car and compressed the adjuster seated against the stops and adjusting ride height has presented no problem.
Old 06-05-2006 | 03:48 AM
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Thanks Louie and Bill, I had hopes of a simpler solution for freeing up the adjusters, but persistence is always the path of last resort I suppose. I decided to risk that I would not need to adjust, but if wrong I will have to disassemble and soak the rears, the fronts may be fine as I assumed that the sleeve would wedge against the shock as apparently several folks like Bill have experienced.

Thanks again guys,
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You could always counter hold the sleeve with chanel locks....
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You could always counter hold the sleeve with chanel locks....
NO NO NO!

You will destroy the threads and lose adjustment range. Bad Idea!



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