Notices
928 Forum 1978-1995
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: 928 Specialists

Cam chain tensioner nylon pad replacement

Old 12-18-2005, 07:36 PM
  #1  
Schocki
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
Schocki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Madrid, Espaņa
Posts: 2,159
Received 180 Likes on 150 Posts
Default Cam chain tensioner nylon pad replacement

I'm getting my covers and manifold powdercoated and wanted to write about my experience about changing the nylon pads on the chain tensioners.
Porsche has a nylon pad set for the 928 S4 and younger. The pad that sits on the piston assembly is wearing out first (critical part in the 944).
Make your own tensioner tool (picture). Bent a small wire into a U shape and use it to keep the pad down. Pushing the piston down requires some force, but eventually comes down just fine. Remove the oil line and take the tensioner assembly out and replace the nylon pad (self explanatory).
The fixed pad showed nearly no wear at all and the pad that sits on the piston about 0.6mm. Which is still OK but both tensioner pads (for both sides) cost about $14.

The passenger side is easy. The driver side is harder because the tensioner is installed upside down. I removed the driver side tensioner without releasing the tension (worked just fine). I only used the "tool:"for installation.
Attached Images       

Last edited by Schocki; 12-18-2005 at 11:28 PM.
Old 12-18-2005, 10:23 PM
  #2  
Imo000
Captain Obvious
Super User
 
Imo000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Cambridge, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,846
Received 336 Likes on 243 Posts
Default

That old pad is still in a really good condition. I've seen some so worn that the middle of the chain was actually toching the plastic.
Old 12-18-2005, 10:51 PM
  #3  
Schocki
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
Schocki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Madrid, Espaņa
Posts: 2,159
Received 180 Likes on 150 Posts
Default

True they are in pretty good shape. My 944 tensioners looked like sh$% after about 60k Miles.
This replacement was done as preventive maintenance. If the new nylon pad lasts as long as these (110 k Miles). It is cheap insurance...
WYAIT...
Old 12-18-2005, 10:59 PM
  #4  
Chris
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Spokane, WA
Posts: 1,197
Received 10 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Its not just the wear you need to worry about, it is the brittleness of the plastic.

Chris
Old 12-18-2005, 11:49 PM
  #5  
Imo000
Captain Obvious
Super User
 
Imo000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Cambridge, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,846
Received 336 Likes on 243 Posts
Default

Schocki: Yup, I agree it's agood preventative maitnance item.

Chris: The chain only slides on it with a film of oil beween the chain and the pad.There isn't any hard impact on the pads. I don't think brittleness is really a factor.
Old 12-18-2005, 11:59 PM
  #6  
Chris
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Spokane, WA
Posts: 1,197
Received 10 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Here is my old one, battle scars and all. The 944 forum have more info.



Chris
Old 12-19-2005, 12:07 AM
  #7  
FlyingDog
Nordschleife Master
 
FlyingDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Not close enough to VIR.
Posts: 9,429
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

What's so different about the 944 that they wear more?
Old 12-19-2005, 12:19 AM
  #8  
Schocki
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
Schocki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Madrid, Espaņa
Posts: 2,159
Received 180 Likes on 150 Posts
Default

Why does the 944 wear faster? Nobody knows for sure. Just like the Flexplate issues on the 928 and thrust bearing failure...

The pads do get brittle over the years. However, the non-moving pad lasts a lifetime. There is nearly no stress on the pad (look at the picture). The pad just dampens vibrations that's it. The one attached to the piston has to deal with both pressure and vibration.
Attached Images  
Old 03-12-2006, 03:13 PM
  #9  
Flormat
Racer
 
Flormat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Louisville
Posts: 309
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Sorry to bring an old post back but I think the reason the 944S & S2 pads wear so much more is because there is a lot more vibration. Those fours don't run as smoothly as the eights and as Schocki said, the pads dampen vibration.
Old 03-12-2006, 08:05 PM
  #10  
Jfrahm
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Jfrahm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 6,400
Likes: 0
Received 103 Likes on 91 Posts
Default

I thought it was the stiffer valvesprings on the 944's, mostly. Also the 944 head might see more heat as they make more power per cylinder.

-Joel.
Old 03-13-2006, 12:24 PM
  #11  
Flormat
Racer
 
Flormat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Louisville
Posts: 309
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

You are probably right, makes sense to me. That could also explain why the 944 tensioners themselves fail more frequently than the 928.
Old 02-07-2019, 07:53 PM
  #12  
merchauser
Three Wheelin'
 
merchauser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,799
Received 39 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

BUMP

can you replace the pad without removing cams? can someone expand on the procedure?
Old 02-08-2019, 01:21 AM
  #13  
Schocki
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
Schocki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Madrid, Espaņa
Posts: 2,159
Received 180 Likes on 150 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by merchauser
BUMP

can you replace the pad without removing cams? can someone expand on the procedure?
Absolutely yes. Just unbolt the oil pressure line (make sure you don't drop any of the four washers). Unbolt the tensioner and take it out
Installation is assembly in reverse order. Make sure you get new washers before. Do this procedure only with a very good, small torque wrench!
Old 02-08-2019, 09:00 AM
  #14  
siscogts
Burning Brakes
 
siscogts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: North Italy
Posts: 972
Received 16 Likes on 11 Posts
Default

One more question from me :crank at 45 degrees btdc ? Do I need to lock cams? Thank you.
Old 02-08-2019, 09:22 AM
  #15  
Schocki
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
Schocki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Madrid, Espaņa
Posts: 2,159
Received 180 Likes on 150 Posts
Default

No, TDC is enough (actually any position will do). The cams are not moving at all during the procedure.

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Cam chain tensioner nylon pad replacement



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 07:11 AM.