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Heinrich,
Hey I think our 928 headlight pods are far sexier - we just neet the eyelashes!
Interesting topic though - I love the Miura design also - but I had never seen one with the lights up before (if you can call that up!) - or maybe I wouldn't have noticed.
I do think they look much worse up than down....
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Hey I think our 928 headlight pods are far sexier - we just neet the eyelashes!
Interesting topic though - I love the Miura design also - but I had never seen one with the lights up before (if you can call that up!) - or maybe I wouldn't have noticed.
I do think they look much worse up than down....
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Alan I like ours also, but I think for porken's work it might be interesting. I love the eyelashes, you are quite correct. I had never seen them and was curious. So, thanks Nicloe
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According to Keith Martin's "Sports Car Market" magazine's price guide:
66-69 Miura P400 Low: $65,000 High: $100,000
69-71 400S Low: $110,000 High: $145,000
71-72 400SV Low: $180,000 High: $225,000
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66-69 Miura P400 Low: $65,000 High: $100,000
69-71 400S Low: $110,000 High: $145,000
71-72 400SV Low: $180,000 High: $225,000
James
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looks to me like a kitcar - without the reliability. I never could figure out the infatuation with the Italian exotics. Imagine a beautiful home with all the appeal of grandeur and elegance. Now imagine this home needing every year, new plumbing,wiring and a complete foundation. The analogy may seem out there but nonetheless applicable. I appreciate the looks and longevity of our porsche 928 exotics!
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If you want to see one of these smashed against a bulldozer blade then dumped off a cliff, watch the first few minutes of the original "Italian Job". sad to see, but at least you get a few minutes of very cool driving footage before that happens...
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I never respected lamborginis. As far as I know, this brand doesn't have a rich racing heritage(if it has any at all), unlike Porsches. And at those times, the cars were tested in races for perfomance and durability. Now, ferrari is another story...
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The only area I can think of where Lambo's are big in racing is international offshore powerboat racing. Amazingly enough they use their V12's. I do't think they were ever big enough or sold enough cars to attempt any kind of serious racing. Back in the 60's and 70's they were probably about the size of Aston Martin.
Kevin if you saw one of them in the flesh I doubt you would call it a kit car. They are an absolutely stunning automobile.
Kevin if you saw one of them in the flesh I doubt you would call it a kit car. They are an absolutely stunning automobile.
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Ah, the wives tales of Lamborghini's and Muira's. Engine rebuild is not that bad if you DIY. As long as the crank, rods, heads and cams are servicable, cost is around $5-7000. If you send it to Bobileff in San Diego, it'll certainly reach $20k.
Lamborghini never sponsored any race cars. He wasn't into the F1 scene, and actually discouraged competition with his cars.
If you think of GTs, or Euros as rare, the total production run of all Lamborhinis ever built is just over 10,000 units.
Getting the Muira engine out isn't that big a deal. The trans sump and engine in early cars is one unit ala the Mini Cooper. Trans got a bad rap for relaibility because it shared lube with the engine. Engine got a bad rap for reliability because of lack of use. The cars that were driven regularly (few of them) actually last pretty well with regular maint.
The Muira body was actually a take-off of another '60s icon auto - Which one???
If you think your car sounds nice, try sitting in a Muira with those Weber trumpets in your ear as it screams through 7000RPM. Oh-my.....
Doc
Lamborghini never sponsored any race cars. He wasn't into the F1 scene, and actually discouraged competition with his cars.
If you think of GTs, or Euros as rare, the total production run of all Lamborhinis ever built is just over 10,000 units.
Getting the Muira engine out isn't that big a deal. The trans sump and engine in early cars is one unit ala the Mini Cooper. Trans got a bad rap for relaibility because it shared lube with the engine. Engine got a bad rap for reliability because of lack of use. The cars that were driven regularly (few of them) actually last pretty well with regular maint.
The Muira body was actually a take-off of another '60s icon auto - Which one???
If you think your car sounds nice, try sitting in a Muira with those Weber trumpets in your ear as it screams through 7000RPM. Oh-my.....
Doc
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The Miura design was influenced by the Ford GT. One of the most beautiful cars ever (along with the 928, Jaguar XKE, etc. )
The transverse-mounted engine has cooling problems with one of the cylinder banks. I still have my old Road and Track magazines from the '60s featuring the Miura.
The transverse-mounted engine has cooling problems with one of the cylinder banks. I still have my old Road and Track magazines from the '60s featuring the Miura.
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Originally Posted by jheis
According to Keith Martin's "Sports Car Market" magazine's price guide:
66-69 Miura P400 Low: $65,000 High: $100,000
69-71 400S Low: $110,000 High: $145,000
71-72 400SV Low: $180,000 High: $225,000
James
66-69 Miura P400 Low: $65,000 High: $100,000
69-71 400S Low: $110,000 High: $145,000
71-72 400SV Low: $180,000 High: $225,000
James
How recent are these numbers? My freinds uncle collects cars and Bi-planes. He sold a bunch of his collection a year or so ago. His 69 S sold in the $230k+ range and his Masserati Bora (talk about monsters only brought $145k) Although I like the looks of the Miura better the Bora is a true beast (once you add the $25000 exhaust system to open it up) He was the one that told me about the nightmare of having the engine removed. He sold his VW van with the 18 windows accross the top. Might have been the one on BJ auction and has been offered a small fortune for his D type Jag but refuses to sell that one.
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I imagine the engine/transmission removal difficulty is relative to the period during which it was made. This was the first midengine exotic so when compared to its peers that had conventional front engine rear drive layouts it probably was a great deal more involved. But if compared to the complexities of todays vehicles I bet it is pretty straight forward.
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Sounds wonderful
Originally Posted by docmirror
Ah, the wives tales of Lamborghini's and Muira's. Engine rebuild is not that bad if you DIY. As long as the crank, rods, heads and cams are servicable, cost is around $5-7000. If you send it to Bobileff in San Diego, it'll certainly reach $20k.
Lamborghini never sponsored any race cars. He wasn't into the F1 scene, and actually discouraged competition with his cars.
If you think of GTs, or Euros as rare, the total production run of all Lamborhinis ever built is just over 10,000 units.
Getting the Muira engine out isn't that big a deal. The trans sump and engine in early cars is one unit ala the Mini Cooper. Trans got a bad rap for relaibility because it shared lube with the engine. Engine got a bad rap for reliability because of lack of use. The cars that were driven regularly (few of them) actually last pretty well with regular maint.
The Muira body was actually a take-off of another '60s icon auto - Which one???
If you think your car sounds nice, try sitting in a Muira with those Weber trumpets in your ear as it screams through 7000RPM. Oh-my.....
Doc
Lamborghini never sponsored any race cars. He wasn't into the F1 scene, and actually discouraged competition with his cars.
If you think of GTs, or Euros as rare, the total production run of all Lamborhinis ever built is just over 10,000 units.
Getting the Muira engine out isn't that big a deal. The trans sump and engine in early cars is one unit ala the Mini Cooper. Trans got a bad rap for relaibility because it shared lube with the engine. Engine got a bad rap for reliability because of lack of use. The cars that were driven regularly (few of them) actually last pretty well with regular maint.
The Muira body was actually a take-off of another '60s icon auto - Which one???
If you think your car sounds nice, try sitting in a Muira with those Weber trumpets in your ear as it screams through 7000RPM. Oh-my.....
Doc
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Italian cars like to be driver hard and often, but with the Muira, there is a reason that the SVs are the most expensive - they are the perfected model. There was a killer feature on one in Octane not too long ago.
I liked what Doc mirror said about the sound - Italian cars are designed for All the senses. They are an experience. German cars are, well, Fast. Even a dogged out 928 can be taken out and hammered. An unsorted Italian car is like bad sex. ''The English make cars sporting, and the Germans make them fast, but the Italians make them sing and dance.''
Some of us would like a wife and a mistress. We just know better than to marry the mistress.
I liked what Doc mirror said about the sound - Italian cars are designed for All the senses. They are an experience. German cars are, well, Fast. Even a dogged out 928 can be taken out and hammered. An unsorted Italian car is like bad sex. ''The English make cars sporting, and the Germans make them fast, but the Italians make them sing and dance.''
Some of us would like a wife and a mistress. We just know better than to marry the mistress.
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