Phone Dial Wheel Finish
10-31-2005, 12:33 PM
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Phone Dial Wheel Finish
What would be the OEM finish on the silver phone dials. Paint, paint plus clear, powder coat? Any specific type of prep involved?
I wanted to take a stab at refinishing my wheels, so any input would be appreciated -- input other than "trash the 16"s and install some 17"s or 18"s.
I wanted to take a stab at refinishing my wheels, so any input would be appreciated -- input other than "trash the 16"s and install some 17"s or 18"s.
10-31-2005, 06:16 PM
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If you have a look at my post S2 project
You can see a colour other than silver, it actually looks quite good, I suppose it will depend on what colour you car is though as these wheels didn't look good on my slate grey car.
As for the prep, it takes about three days semi part time, as you need to wait for the 2 pack primers to harden up so that you don't get sink backs etc. It will also take quite a while to clean them up well enough to paint. You will need to clean the backs up so that the masking tape will stick.
You should also allow for stuff ups, I had a few and they can really cause delays. Remember most of these wheels will have some pretty bad scuffing, I sanded those areas back and filled others. When you run the wheels they wont run true anymore on the lip. Not unless you get a wheel guy to repair them for you. The reason I say this is many wheel alighners come off the rim lip. This will put your alighmnent out. Porsche the dealer come off the hub, so as such it is unaffected by the slight uneveness. The ineveness is in my case about a mm, it doesn't effect the tire just how the rim lip rolls.
Also use a very fast hardener, this way if you are doing it in you garage you wont get much dust at all, becareful not to get too many runs, this is not easy on wheels that have so many different surfaces to paint, trust me a have painted a few sets and it is always a challenge between getting the paint too dry looking or peely and a run!
Cheers Greg
Cheers Greg
You can see a colour other than silver, it actually looks quite good, I suppose it will depend on what colour you car is though as these wheels didn't look good on my slate grey car.
As for the prep, it takes about three days semi part time, as you need to wait for the 2 pack primers to harden up so that you don't get sink backs etc. It will also take quite a while to clean them up well enough to paint. You will need to clean the backs up so that the masking tape will stick.
You should also allow for stuff ups, I had a few and they can really cause delays. Remember most of these wheels will have some pretty bad scuffing, I sanded those areas back and filled others. When you run the wheels they wont run true anymore on the lip. Not unless you get a wheel guy to repair them for you. The reason I say this is many wheel alighners come off the rim lip. This will put your alighmnent out. Porsche the dealer come off the hub, so as such it is unaffected by the slight uneveness. The ineveness is in my case about a mm, it doesn't effect the tire just how the rim lip rolls.
Also use a very fast hardener, this way if you are doing it in you garage you wont get much dust at all, becareful not to get too many runs, this is not easy on wheels that have so many different surfaces to paint, trust me a have painted a few sets and it is always a challenge between getting the paint too dry looking or peely and a run!
Cheers Greg
Cheers Greg
10-31-2005, 08:14 PM
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Just found a photo of one of my previously painted phone dials, to get a finish like this does take time and patience, please use 2 pack, with acylic it just doesn't seem tough enough for the brake dust.
10-31-2005, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Randy V
I've used the Wurth 2-step system with good results.
Spray on the silver followed by a light clearcoat.
Spray on the silver followed by a light clearcoat.
10-31-2005, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg Gray
Just found a photo of one of my previously painted phone dials, to get a finish like this does take time and patience, please use 2 pack, with acylic it just doesn't seem tough enough for the brake dust.
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10-31-2005, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by hupp
Thanks Randy. Was any significant prep-work involved?
Then wipe down with laquer thinner and spray 2 - 3 coats of the silver, followed by 1 coat of the clear. Go easy with the clearcoat - too much will give the finished wheel a slight yellowish tint.
I wasn't looking for perfection, so this worked well for me. If you want to get them back to factory condition, it will take a lot of grinding and sanding.
10-31-2005, 10:38 PM
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Flyingdog,
You read my mind!
Greg,
That phone dial looks awesome. Please do tell more. What is "2 pack"? What color did you use? This will be my first attempt at finishing the wheels the right way and I'm prepared to take my time. BUT I need a little "help" with the lingo -- in other words I'm not too sharp with the painting stuff so laymen's terms may help. I've got some used phone dials on the way (16" X 8" for the rear and 16" X 7" for the front) with no tires mounted and I can spend some time on the rims without removing the current wheels on my shark.
Thanks for the input.
BTW -- I'll have a set of 16"x7 phone dials/Dunlops (approx 8,000 miles on the tires) for sale once I get the refinished wheels mounted. They would make a great set of snow wheels for you folks up north...
You read my mind!
Greg,
That phone dial looks awesome. Please do tell more. What is "2 pack"? What color did you use? This will be my first attempt at finishing the wheels the right way and I'm prepared to take my time. BUT I need a little "help" with the lingo -- in other words I'm not too sharp with the painting stuff so laymen's terms may help. I've got some used phone dials on the way (16" X 8" for the rear and 16" X 7" for the front) with no tires mounted and I can spend some time on the rims without removing the current wheels on my shark.
Thanks for the input.
BTW -- I'll have a set of 16"x7 phone dials/Dunlops (approx 8,000 miles on the tires) for sale once I get the refinished wheels mounted. They would make a great set of snow wheels for you folks up north...
11-01-2005, 01:34 AM
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Hi Hupp, first of all 2 pack is just a 2 part paint, one part paint one part hardener. It is designed this way as a system. Du Pont is an excellent American system to use. They has a wide array of paints for this job. To get the wheel to look really nice you will need to fix any scuff marks. Some times these will require filling with a body filler. Again always use a quality product otherwise you will get caught out. If the wheels haven't been painted before you are in luck.
If they have, have the wheels stripped. If you use a blasting method don't let them do the caps, use paint stripper on them. You could also paint strip the wheels but it is messy. You will need an etch primer if you have gone back to bare metal. Prime the wheels up, put at least 3 coats, this will help you get rid of the imperfections. Spray a guide coat over the primer so you can see how you are rubbing. Don't use your fingers or you will get finger marks in your job.
Finish rubbing the primer down with a 800 grit, I suggest using 3 m paper, you will start with something like 280 or 320 grit. then to 600 grit. The silver I always used was a Mercedes Benz colour called Austral Silver. You can put a bit of black in it to change to a darker silver if you wish.
Other things you will need is Prepsol and some tack rags, paper and masking tape, you will also need to wash down your painting area very carefully. I suggust getting a good mask too. As I mentioned use a fast clear, Dupont sell a very fast one, this will limit dust in your job.
Good Luck
Greg
If they have, have the wheels stripped. If you use a blasting method don't let them do the caps, use paint stripper on them. You could also paint strip the wheels but it is messy. You will need an etch primer if you have gone back to bare metal. Prime the wheels up, put at least 3 coats, this will help you get rid of the imperfections. Spray a guide coat over the primer so you can see how you are rubbing. Don't use your fingers or you will get finger marks in your job.
Finish rubbing the primer down with a 800 grit, I suggest using 3 m paper, you will start with something like 280 or 320 grit. then to 600 grit. The silver I always used was a Mercedes Benz colour called Austral Silver. You can put a bit of black in it to change to a darker silver if you wish.
Other things you will need is Prepsol and some tack rags, paper and masking tape, you will also need to wash down your painting area very carefully. I suggust getting a good mask too. As I mentioned use a fast clear, Dupont sell a very fast one, this will limit dust in your job.
Good Luck
Greg
