Opinions: What Does Forced Induction Do To The Value Of A 928?
10-24-2005, 05:45 PM
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Fun value - Far more than a swimming pool.
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10-24-2005, 06:21 PM
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Hey watch it Bailey...I own one forced induced 928 (building another), a swimming pool AND a hot tub. My friends assure me that one day I will be convinced the money I gave for the tub was well worth it...
10-24-2005, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim bailey - 928 International
But Bill the WHOLE FAMILY can use the pool ! 
When my wife insisted whatever sports car I got had 4 seats, that's what she had in mind. It might be more like a communal tub than a swimming pool, but it's a lot more fun.
10-24-2005, 07:38 PM
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Right Bill like anyone could use the rear "seats" now with the Jungle gym in the car Since as far as we can prove you only live once it makes sense to me to enjoy it.
Since as far as we can prove you only live once it makes sense to me to enjoy it.
10-24-2005, 08:49 PM
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Jim a nice unmolesed '82 is worth how much over 9k? 
Originally Posted by Jim bailey - 928 International
It is about the same as putting a swimming pool in your back yard.... a lot of money into a big hole in the ground. And when you sell the house it adds little to resale and some people are afraid of having a pool. Turbo John, Herr Kuhn, just sold his 82 ? auto on E-bay with a completely rebuilt engine AND turbo set up for like $9,000. The car was worth maybe $4,000 before the rebuilt engine possibly $5-6,000 with rebuilt engine then with all the turbo work less than $9,000. A couple years ago an automatic S-4 with a half FAST blower from (Colorado ?) sold for a premium of a few thousand the car went to Illinois/Michigan ?? The buyer was quickly ready to dump it when it lost an alternator belt . It later popped up for sale again as I recall . Generally speaking most buyers look for a nice original unmolested factory stock car (better wheels are OK ) even if they intend to modify and run it hard.... there will always be a few with more money than time, patience, or talent who might just step up and pay big money for "special cars" but finding someone who shares the same dream can be difficult. While you might like having your wife be skillfull and talented in bed you may not want to know how she learned that ... same applies to cars
... same applies to cars
10-25-2005, 01:56 PM
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The 911 turbo /and 934 turbo racecar , all 911 turbos 1975-1992 are CIS injection actually worked rather well. Porsche got 17 years of turbo performance with CIS. But I know what you mean electronic injection/engine management has had exponential improvement in the last several years and is becoming less and less expensive as well.
10-26-2005, 01:26 AM
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Original question was:
Can you recover costs? Maybe.
Does a supercharger add or remove value? Add.
Originally Posted by bigs
Do prospective buyers generally prefer an unmolested stock model, or a modded car?
Does a supercharger add or remove value? Add.
10-26-2005, 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Ball
Hey, I counted them and there are 4 seats. Wife's criteria met. Never used. Worked for me.
Not that anybody would be interested in my opinion, but here is how a clueless person like myself looks at this question:
I think the main concern buyers would have with a supercharger setup is that they are pretty much on their own with troubleshooting and fixing the beast. Those who enjoy technical challenges will more likely jump on an opportuntiy to buy a nicely kept supercharged 928. The rest of us sees the potential for endless shop bills - providing we could even find a mechanic to work on the car. And for most it is already hard enough to find someone capable who they can trust.
The reason why I believe a DEVEK stroker increases the value so much more is because
- it uses a mainly stock setup on the outside (which means similar troubleshooting procedures),
- the capabilitites and reliability of these engines has been proven many times under race conditions
- there is a well established company behind it, with the knowledge, experience, and resources to provide technical support.
Many people forget that when you pay for a good or service, you are not only paying for the immediate value you are getting. You are also paying for access to the people who have the know-how to provide the product or service. If the latter is not included, the solution might be cheap, but the company might not be there when you need it.
For the superchargers to become more widely accepted among used car buyers, the vendors should keep the above in mind, and provide easy-to-access documentation with detailed trouble-shooting techniques. Rather than being the low price leader - they could be the one that provides the full package of product and service! It takes deeper pockets to get this established, and the kit would be more expensive, but will reassure potential used car buyers and possibly attract others that would otherwise not dare to install a such kit in their car.
I think at least some of the supercharger vendors are on that track already.
In summary, for the majority of the buyers, a supercharger adds risk to a used car purchase. For the others it fulfills a desire - a dream. Matching the car to one of the latter is probably the biggest challenge when it comes to resale. Vendors can take steps to minimize the concerns about buying and maintaining a supercharged car, but it would add to the cost.
Last edited by Nicole; 10-26-2005 at 03:02 AM.