sublimate

If it's already "defunct"...

hacker-pschorr

IIRC in the manual it states you should not idle a car to warm up - drive it.

I still say teaching him how to drive it properly and respect it you will be lightyears ahead vs telling him "NO" and hiding the keys.

SharkSkin

Yeah, yeah, I know... but "bad" relays can work intermittently, and you wouldn't want it to work just long enough for him to get on the freeway...

Mongo

take the steering wheel off

All you need is a 23mm deep socket.

m21sniper

Grant makes a removable wheel kit that has a locking steel cap that goes over the column when the wheel is off.

It's about 100 bucks or so, and it does work good(i think it's only compatible with grant wheels though). When i run into one of those on a repo i have to have it towed.

SharkSkin

As long as he's not the kind of kid that would clamp on a set of vice grips and go for it anyway...

Porsche928fan

Wow- You guys are serious. Yeah, look, Sam is a good kid, but lets be honest, if our Fathers had 928s in the garage we would have taken them out for a spin, right? Yeah, it's best that the car gets out on the road and driven but when I'm away, my wife gets nervous just starting the thing up.... backing the thing out of the garage would be like asking an unexperience pilot to land a 747. She knows how much I have spent on this thing, she understands that insurance probably wouldn't cover the dings and scratches from pulling her out of the garage. So who else can I trust? Luckily, I'm going to be here at Knox for awhile...45 miles from home. A great commute for the 928S. I've had her over 140 mph going up the Gene Snyder Hwy. but when I do pop smoke and move out for 4 to 8 months at a time, I like to think about what's best for the car and safest for the kid. Lots of good ideas you guys have given me though. Thanx.

Steve 88

I wasn't that bad a kid, but the first night my father gave me the keys to his 1960 Rambler station wagon I wound it up over 100mph while my friends "mooned" out the windows. Imagine what I would have done with a performance car like a 928.

Trust works under ideal circumstances - but with music blasting, cell phones ringing and friends screaming even good kids can do dumb things.

Let him drive your shark with you from time to time so he can tell his friends and doesn't feel insulted. Offer to pick one out for him when he achieves a life goal (e.g. college, starts a business, etc.). But hide the keys when you aren't home and make him drive the biggest, slowest, safest vehicle you have until he understands how precious life is.

m21sniper

"Wow- You guys are serious. Yeah, look, Sam is a good kid, but lets be honest, if our Fathers had 928s in the garage we would have taken them out for a spin, right?"

Let's see.....

Dad had a 63 Split window coupe vette. I 'borrowed' that when he was on vacay.

He had a 71 Mach 1, i 'borrowed' that once too.

His crown jewel was an 87 Maserati Bi-Turbo spyder. I 'borrowed' that one several times.

"I wasn't that bad a kid"

LOL, i was an effin' monster.

m21sniper

Sharkskin- "As long as he's not the kind of kid that would clamp on a set of vice grips and go for it anyway..."

Heh, that would make it even more fun. And besides, what do ya reckon a beat up used porsche wheel on ebay costs???

LOL....

That's why i suggested the GVSS.

dr bob

Put Sta-Bil in the ful gas tank, pull the fuel pump relay while it's running to clear some remaining fuel out of the piping. Disconnect the battery and put it on the maintainer. Put blocks under the suspension to get the tires unloaded, maybe on stands too to partially unload the shocks and springs. In essence, you will be doing the wnter storage drill that northerners go through annually. If the car needs to be run, at least it's on blocks/stands and not able to roll easily.

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Me? I'm sometimes gone long enough that car sits for a month or three between drives. Whenever I leave, even for a planned "few days", I put the maintainer on it and unload the suspension and tires some before leaving. Plenty of those "few days" projects have stretched into weeks or months. So far so good on the car lighting right up when I get back. Pull the cover, unplug, lift it off the blocks, check the tires and the oil, lights right up every time. I do not believe in the "run it once in a while" theory, since there's no good way to get the oil heated up sufficiently at a standstill to flash off moisture.

Last time Karen drove it, we 'landed' in Phoenix at about 100. She didn't believe we were going that fast. Passing a lot of cars finally helped her believe the speedo was right, fortunately that happened before the radar detector started going crazy. Would it be a good idea to have her just take it out and warm up the oil? Ummmm, no.

MGW-Fla

oh the pain readin all of this brings back thinkin of my now 19 yr old son takin my 911 out three days after the 911 trajedy here in America, and he created his own 911 trajedy by taking out a custom mailbox & back ending into a telephone pole totalling it..... and he still IS a good kid.... recruited for two sports, on a full scholarship right now in spite of two knee suguries... and if you'd of asked me beforehand I would have never of thought he'd be stupid enough to take the car out. And I did teach him all about the car... I thought maybe that was my mistake! Now my 15 yr old daughter with her learners permit gets to take drives in my 928 with either my wife or I with her. She happens to "hate" my shark... has nicknamed it "UGH" as in Ugly in her book... kids..... All I can say is good luck and keep both eyes on em!

John Struthers

Zack just turned 18 and he can drive Pattycakes-the Weissach- if he needs to.
He knows I'll sell his White, 81' and buy a 86.5 if he fugs-up.
My daughter, Kay, just turned 16. Like Mel's girl, Kay put a lot of practice time in behind Pattycakes' steering wheel.
She REFUSED a 928 and is perfectly happy with her Honda Civic.
Let your son style - occasionally- in the sHARk while you are home but have a
binding no drive rule when you are gone.

jyoon

aw come on, just let him have the keys. he needs to have some fun and show off to his friends. lol

when i was about 16 i took my dads new bmw 325i out and tested the top speed and abs brakes. on a country road, that comes to a T, i was young and didn't realize how long it took to stop from triple digit speeds. i waited too long to hit the brakes and barely had enough sensce to turn away from the cement pilar that was at the end of the road and thank god there wasn't a big ditch before the bean field. did a quick donut in the field and drove home. i thought for sure the front spoiler would be ripped off, but was suprised, no damage.

SharkSkin

Good point about ebay. About Grant wheels... I haven't seen one I liked in decades, except when I helped a friend pick one out for a dunebuggy.