Again, you cannot "LIGHT UP" the wheels of a C4S or Twin Turbo it cannot be done without doing MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF DAMAGE (I MEAN $$$$ ) to the car.

 

don't wanna start an argument, and i agree it's not good for the car, but i'm pretty sure you can do some awd burnouts in a c4s or twin turbo without breaking it. i've done them in an eagle talon, and i think you can do them in a porsche. unless the computer aided traction control kicks in and says no, that is.

 

OOOOOkay you are are telling sombody that HAPPENS TO CURRENTLY OWN A 996TWIN TURBO and the Porsche before that was a 996C4.

I am telling you YOU CAN'T DO IT without Breaking the CAR! Take my word for it- I am correct here. Of course you can either go out and buy a C4 or Twin Turbo Porsche and try for yourself or see if a buddy will lend you one, like a AWD Eagle Talon, and see if you can try in yer buddy's Porsche... NOT!

 

ok, ok, i believe you. question though, does your car almost spin em if you just floor it in first gear? seems like it should be on the edge.

 

Um, if you put the correct tire on the 16" wheel to keep the overall aspect ratio the same, I fail to see any advantage. Not to mention the new Porsche wheels are very light weight.

 

Nope you just massive amounts of clutch slipping and burning (you will smell it for weeks in the cab of the car) they won't even wheel hop. All four tires are trying to hook up and the grip of the rubber would destroy the clutch and transmission and then look for the RMS failure and other issues ...you can count on massive issues if you try it!

 

yes, 0-60 is all about traction. the 315hp 996 is VERY close to the 928 in performance . in fact, most of these guys at Laguna running professionally prepared cars and pro drivers are running just what im running at Laguna at a slightly heavier weight. 2800lbs 928 vs 2950lbs 996. 4x4 does wonders to the 0-60 times. I think the world challenge audi RS6 ran close to 3.5 seconds with 4x4 and less than stock boost (but an engine built by cosworth!)

MK

 

Yep, SO very True Mark. If I said once, I have said a thousand times- A 993 will need alot of work to out run a 928 but a 996 is VERY VERY Close to the 928 in performance.

I have watched Don Hanson chase down 996 GT3's in his stroked 928 and at times give them a really hard time. The 996 seems to have a slight edge though (IMO). I particularly like those built in underbody hydraulic jacks on the 996 GT3 ... drive into the pit, hit a switch on the dash, and the car pops up off of all four tires in a second flat! Anyway the 996 is a very competent car and the tract in the C4 and Turbo is positively unbelievable. Only two wheels are used to get the car to 60 but is any slippage occurs the other two kick in to pull the car to speed.

Don once told me that lots of the 996TT's are completely disengaging the AWD to race them. True?

 

It makes no sense to me with that kerb (curb) weight .. I'm calling bs on the wieght. The Carreras are much lighter than a 928. 2 sec is a HUGE difference.

 

Btw my 928's have no traction problems 0-60. And I own a 349bhp S4 that puts 299 to the rear wheels. torque and horsies. So no .. traction is not a problem.

 

Which takes us back to *Gearing*

 

you havent been in a high hp 4x4 racer have you. big difference. there is 'launch" and there is "LAUNCH"!!

the difference is right there. and its about 1 second on cars like ours. right now.

mk

 

actually, the 996s and 928s are simular from 0-60 as far as gears.
especially, the 2.75 or 2.72 boxes where you redline in the 70-75mph range vs my S4 2.2 rear end and gear set that can go to 85mph in 2nd.

the big differnence in gearing is really with the close ratio 996 cup cars (GT3) where 0-60 is not that different, but there is an extra gear between 80 to 125mph.

mk

 

I don't recall the 997 & 996 being very different in weight, so here yea go:

http://content3.us.porsche.com/prod/..._specification

 

A 2 wheel drive 996 should leave a 928 well behind - I am sorry to say. If anything it will do a better job than the significantly heavier, less aerodynamic C4, and is certainly easier to get off the line (the C4s will be quicker but you have to be brutal to stop it bogging down while a little spin helps the 2 take off). Autocar quote a best time of 4.6 to 60mph for the bog standard C2 - hitting 100mph at 10 secs dead. You need a supercharger on a 928 to beat that - or is my GTS off the boil?