MarkRobinson

Has anyone tried both? I'm about to drop the bomb, but would like some feedback:

Currently, lowered 2" with 928INTL Bilstien/Eibach combination on '86 car

TAREK

which upgraded sway bar? devek?

SteveG

I'm interested in this too. A search here says it's good to replace the links: the rear link is smallish and the bushing gets loose, some have broken the link, don't know how many or under what conditions. Recently there was a set of "solid" adjustable rear links on ebay. I didn't pull the trigger b/c I hadn't done my homework. Carl has a complete replacement for the front on his site, includes bar and links for IIRC $429. I don't how his price compares. I would like to know more.

shaaark89

i've played with adjustable droplinks and different swaybars on both street and track cars. for street driving i like the droplinks over the upgraded swaybar (gives you enough without making it too harsh,) but for the track, the swaybar is a must.

bcdavis

928 Motorsports is selling swaybars now...
As well as droplinks...
And I agree, it's a matter of street vs. track...

DR

Hi Mark,

If you can hold off a few days (literally) we are showing some new products at Sharks in the Mountains this weekend that may interest you.

mark kibort

should be close to no difference. however, it would be tough in front to match a much larger diameter bar, with just the inch or two change in leverage points with the droplinks alone. on the rear its fine, as most folks run with no rear swaybar or a reduced setting. personally, i have mine on full stiff with the droplinks and it works great. AND still have all the stock components, ie weisach still working as its designed, not pinned.

mk

Jim bailey - 928 International

It actually is a question of what is it that you are trying to "fix". It is possible to make it handle like a Go-cart however at that point it also rides like a Go-cart as in no suspension and bouncing overjust the slightest bumps. Compromises are what it is all about ,Porsche could have just as easily made the 928 suspension much stiffer. And the $64,000 question is because it is much stiffer does it corner better or just feel better cornering ?

SteveG

Found more discussion here: https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ight=oversteer

MarkRobinson

My car still has a lot of play (body roll) as everything but the shocks/springs are still stock, and I like the ride quality (though a bit soft), but the car feels older as the body roll is quite noticable, even with relatively low miles & casual driving from the privious owner.

I loved my cut Eiback/Koni's-on-full feel with the Weltmeister sway bar I had on my supercharged car, but financial priorities have changed...might have to go with a full swaybar to get some of that stiffness back...

Going to the track in 3.5 weeks, just need to make a decision by then.

Mark

Jim bailey - 928 International

One of the better discussions of handling ...Roger Kraus Racing, rogerkrausracing.com/overundr.html rogerkrausracing.com/overundr.html - 19k -

mark kibort

The swaybar is used to reduce body roll, without changing the shock and spring settings, so in a straight line, the ride stays the same. however, when you do corner, the load is transfered to the inside wheel and lifts it up. this can be bad. the trick is the right amount of spring stifness, shock compression (rebound on the other side, and both for the rear set) and bar to keep the cars tires planted and give the right amount of oversteer.( just a little loose (oversteer) is usually fastest)
a pushy car in most cases has poor weight distribution, and could even be driver style induced.
to soft or too stiff can cause some of the same bad characteristics. Its a finely tuned set up that creates the best handling package. sometimes, you have to make some sacrafices in your set up do make it do what you want. For example, I have too soft of springs and shocks are maxed out since day 1 (both adjustments) so, in order to reduce roll, i maxed out my swaybars. probably have found some of the best starting point settings for any 928 racing today. (in my opinion) but i have no ability to change and test going stiffer in any way . When i do get my shocks revalved, springs heavier by 50-100lbs, i may see what the changes in swaybar can buy me. right now, with tires being the most dominant factor, right next to driving style, i dont think you need to get too crazy worring about the settings too much. if you need to stiffen a rear bar to add some oversteer to match your push, then you create another style of driving that you may or may not like.

so many factors, so much money, so little time

MK

Fastest928

ALWAYS work on the end of the car that is not sticking...if the car is pushing, work to reduce the push ... increase the grip!

Do not do the opposite...if the fornt end pushes, do not go and mkae the rear stiffer to match...you just get slower..

Marc