DoubleNutz

Does NOT change the issue as .038 is still a considerable amount of time. After all penalties and everthing are added up. Mark may have actually beat the guy down the straight by more than a second or two taking the flag. But after everthing is squared up- .038 is still a win and IMO that "blows away" the loser even if it were a tenth of a second.

Hack stop trying to minimize the accomplishment. You're not there and don't have a real clue as to the skill it takes to win these events. I watch and support guys like Mark Anderson, Mark Kibort, Don Hanson, etc because these guys are doing it and from the pits even I have only a milder uderstanding than the driver of just how difficult it is to get just a little bit of time.

You're not out ther doing it man...heck your not even in the pit so give us a break or find someplace and somebody else's skill to crap on, at least until you're on the track competing with these guys.

Mark Anderson

We have talked about it but it takes a bigger budget. Just running the 1.5 hour is very expensive.

hacker-pschorr

Try to pry your eyes open a bit, ok? I was talking about the Speed GT race yesterday at Cleveland. Take a chill pill and join the right conversation, Ok?

I'm not minimizing anything for Mr.Anderson or anybody else in the 928 racers group.

I've been attending races and working in pit crews for almost 20 years. Find out about someone before you attempt to crap on them, ok? This is the OT area, I don't expect attacks like this in the 928 forum.

DoubleNutz

Then mention you are refering to the Speed GT RACE or take the discussion to the OT forum where it belongs, We are TALKING ABOUT MARKS 928 Race and win under this topic...duh !


Seems to me quite the opposite!

mark kibort

I was thinking they were 360 ferarri challenge cars. Now I remember Alan saying Ferarri 360GT!! It dont get better than that !! how were they on power compared to the ALMS GT type porsche GT3RS?

Getting back to the enduro, it would have been great to see you maybe winning the event. looks like there was a lot of problems for the leaders. you could have been right there and got that TV time we all want. maybe we need to go on a 928 race fund racing effort to get a full team to run next year. those trophies look pretty nice! Plus, the 928 would be a hit and get lots of TV time, especially if it was winning!

Mk

mark kibort

As far as the GT race goes, there was a fraction of a second between the Caddie and 996GT3 driven by Liddell. (just saw the race over lunch today)
they were very close, but the caddie only had a chance on the final straight. pretty funny to hear the announcers talk about the porsche braking, and the caddie is right there, cornering, (and the caddy is right there) and then they say "now watch that big V8 come off the turn on to the straight" and the 996 just keeps on pulling. funny. point is, the cars are all evenly matched in that series, and the cars are all capable of winning races at different tracks. the porsche is just so much lighter and has other advantages that they just dont cut back on . the "big v8s" usually get the punishment first!

If lap times are 2 seconds faster, thats a killing in my book now. (there are different books though!)

MK

TAREK

I would donate $100.00. Not a whole lot, but may be it will encourage the masses

mark kibort

Ok, two sprint races with a tire and driver change. ( 45min each)

Hey, i know its still a tough event! would have loved to run it with you !

Regarding #2. yes, a GT3RS driven 10 seconds slower than it should be. Heck, you lapped the field 10 times!!!! (and the GT3RS 8 times!) Still an AWESOME car , but Jeff was hardly worthy of your competition. 3rd place was R5

Ive always thought the perfect event would be a 2 hour enduro. then the true shade tree mechanics, weekend warriors could go against the top teams. the extra 2 hours just drives the costs up exponentially. Heck, we have tons of pro enduros out there, tons of money dumped in to the sport. wouldnt it be nice to have the car and driver be the show case, rather than who has the most money? (or time!) I think POC has it right with the 5 min mandatory pitstop. nice to get that part of racing out of the equation too. I mean, thats why they do it, right?? (think about a team with air jacks , single nut wheels, power fuel loader, etc etc vs me and my mikita and metwrench, although i do hold my own in the pits. (paddock that is!)
MK

hacker-pschorr

Mark (either one)
What other types of events are you guys looking to run, now that the Speed series is out? I remember someone talking about the V8 series with NASA, how about Vintage racing? The class you would run with this July at RA (exhibition group) would consist of a couple of 962’s, 911 RSR’s, retired NASCAR vehicles etc… Could be fun.


I suggest you scroll back and read again, I was responding to ErnestSw from this thread who was talking about the Caddy vs 911 battle in Cleveland.
Quoting someone, then making a comment, is common way to let others know what you’re referring to. Sorry you didn't catch that

mark kibort

Right now, im running only in SCCA Club racing (ITE ) class. im only able to run 80% of the races in the schedule, but Im not missing the main double points or double race events. good competition, lots of cars in the same or only slightly greater race prep and power, and that makes for racing more in my weight class for once! right now, 2nd in points, so Im trying to run a full season and get in the top 5 for points in the end.

the other racing I would like to do would be with POC again, but resourses are just not there right now with the new baby, and the work situation. So, i just may hit one of the POC races with Mark A if he comes to Laguna seca this year. (not that excited about trying to meet POC class rules for the Holbert car of R5 and having to add 300lbs to it, to compete with the 2200lb 911s and their 240 rear wheel hp big tire set ups! (in otherwords, someone on the rules committee flunked basic phyisics in school, but we have been there before!)

The REAL interesting race series, is the V8 supercar series, as ive seen those cars out west, and read the rules. our cars would be PEFFECT for this series to actually place high and win most races. however, its an east coast affair.

Nasa has its v8 series, in the same league of cars, and it would be a good series too, but lack of participation is my only concern. (not a huge field right now, and mostly down in so cal NASA events.)

Im still hoping that nasa brings back the BMW/ porsche racing again. NOW that was RACING!!!!

MK

[QUOTE=Hacker-Pschorr]Mark (either one)
What other types of events are you guys looking to run, now that the Speed series is out? I remember someone talking about the V8 series with NASA, how about Vintage racing? The class you would run with this July at RA (exhibition group) would consist of a couple of 962’s, 911 RSR’s, retired NASCAR vehicles etc… Could be fun.


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Mark Anderson

I think it was Road and Track that had a comparrison with a street 360, a challenge 360 and a 360 GT. It was amazing that the 360 GT was about twice the price of a challange 360 and not much more HP. The big difference was weight. I think the GT was about 400 lbs lighter and had better suspension and brakes.

mark kibort

Kind of like the cup car vs cup car with motorsport upgrades, vs GT3RS. GT3RS doesnt have much more hp, but it does have the even more "trick" suspension and of course, the $250,000 price tag vs the cup car at $120 to $160 with the upgrades.

by the way, up to 10th in the enduro before your race ended? looked like you should have been righ behind your nemisis Joe Kunz in 5th. thats probably where you could have ended up if all went smoothly. based on problems, and if you didnt have any, maybe a podium!!!

lets all start going door to door and sell 928 cookies.

MK