Stinaris

I have fitted an Alpine INA-033R DVD navigation system to my 928.
All of it except the speed sensor input. I cannot find where to connect this safely. By this I mean I don't think it's advisable to link it into one of the 4 ABS speed sensors.

I'm lead to believe that a line is available going to the cruise control unit.
Unfortunately I can't locate the unit.

I get lost in my own garage, so Sat-Nav is essential, and at 16mpg it'll pay for itself in no time without the "detours" I normally take.

Any help gratefully received.

Blown Beast

What year is your car?

I installed a Blaupunkt nav in my 88 S-4 and the speed wire is under the heater box on the passenger side and I believe it was a black wire with a red stripe or the other way around (I will look and get back to you)
The speed signal was not consistent enough for my unit so I had to use a signal amplifier to get good readings.

heinrich

good to know

cobalt

I would be interested in both your input on the Nav systems. Was thinking of doing this myself.

Champagne

On my 1988, I used the cruise control wire which is brown with a red stripe.

Paul

PorKen

On the early cars, there is a speedo feed to the OXS counter under the cover next to the passenger seat. (The counter can just as well be removed, anyway.)

Blown Beast

I am using the same wire as you Paul...comes out of the speed controll box....but mine looks like it is black w/red stripe....oh well may be it is just a dirty wire.

Stinaris

Thanks for the advice, the minute is stops raining over here I'll get on it.

The SE is a UK only version of the CS with all the toys added back in, it was only made in 1988.

Stinaris

SAT NAV fitting update

Failed to find the correct wire where suggested so was forced to take it to a local nav fitting specialist. He couldn't find it either. Eventually had to take it from the speedo wire in the cluster.

Randy V

Hey guys, could you post pics of your satnav units?

Sounds like a very nice upgrade to our cars, if it can be done cleanly.

BrettStrikes

The Magellan700 road mate I have is a portable unit. It figures MPH without any wires at all. It must decipher the change in latitude and longitude and convert it to MPH. It also is able to tell me how many feet above sea level I am at all times. In addition, to helping me find my way everyday.

Stinaris

You don't actually need to connect the speed wire, but it allows the unit to be more accurate. So much so that it tells me I've reached my destination as I pull up outside. Also it continues working in cities with tall buildings or in tunnels where visibility of the satellites is not possible.

Installation is relatively easy. It's the same basic connections as any other 1-DIN system plus a speed pulse and hand brake connection (normally connected to ground so you can operate the unit while on the move). The tricky bit is finding the speed pulse.

I have the Alpine INA-033R (do a search to find a picture) it's a typical Alpine looking unit, single din with a small but hi-res display.

I think the best looking unit is the Becker Traffic Pro. But it's operation isn't as good as that of the Alpine. By this I mean the speed of searching destinations is very slow and after a while becomes frustrating. Also the level of detail on the Alpine is far far better than the Becker.
Furthermore the Alpine is a DVD unit and contains detailed coverage of most of Europe (the reason I need it).

Becker units can be picked up in the UK from ebay for about £250. The high speed units overcome the speed problem but the detail is still lacking. Although this is subjective, depending on the types of journey you do and how easily you get lost.
The Alpines are a little more expensive.

Champagne

I just installed a Pioneer AVIC-D1 which is really excellent in terms of navigation and also as the advantage of being ready for XM NavTraffic.

But the install is not for the faint of heart. The electrical connections are easy and strait forward but the actual fitment of the double din unit in the center console required a complete overall.

The first problem is the fact that most of these units are very sensitive to the installation angle, 30 degrees being the limit. Our center consoles are tilted back 38 degrees which turns the install into a serious project instead of a simple drop-in.

But I'm very happy with the way it turned out and it surely updates the shark's interior both by look and amenities (nav, XM radio, Ipod control etc.)

I will have pictures later.

Paul

Alan

Paul,
OK now you've done it...

You can't expect to get away with just the Pioneer promotional pictures....

We all want to see what it looks like in the 928 !!

What did you do to mount it - did you move the AC head unit down lower like in the photo of the GTS with the VW Navigation? I have been looking at this myself (just thinking for now). I perfer a fixed in the dash location but the space we have available (even with much juggling) is rather limited (width as well as height). Did you consider a reverse camera?, CD changer? I see you mention Sat radio, iPod how do these integrate...

Alan

Dave Howerdel

I've got this one with the rear camera and xm module in my 88.
avic-n2
Its sits in the dash just as the stock radio does. The screen opens out and flips up (works very nicely actually and the fit is perfect). The control module sits in the spare tire well.
I'd snap a couple of pics but the car is at the shop getting its tranny rebuilt.