2nd 928 Porschevy almost done....
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I can't get a straight answer on engine weight... according to the conversion crowd, the original Porsche 928 engine weighs about 6 tons, whereas the Chevy iron block weighs 5 ounces. All, I know it's lighter.
As for the carb issue, I may have made a mistake, but on a race engine, I saved about $2,000 to do it right. I also thought the carb setup looks cleaner, or more "Traditional" which may be stupid, as I'm not exactly going places and raising my hood all the time. The carb runs fine, so I'm not sure it's that big of a deal. However, to clear the hood, they had to modify the Demon carb and eliminate the choke. Even in our sub zero cold, it seems to start fine.
As for the front springs, they removed coil until the car settled to about stock height... very unscientific, but Renegade did not provide very useful advice concerning springs.... just the fact that we removed one full coil revolution testifies to the lightness of the engine.
I also decided to bite the bullet and in a few weeks do the exhaust with Flowmaster 2 1/2 inch pipes. S & S Performance thinks it will produce a bit more power than the standard exhaust and sound a bit deeper, but still quiet.
As for the carb issue, I may have made a mistake, but on a race engine, I saved about $2,000 to do it right. I also thought the carb setup looks cleaner, or more "Traditional" which may be stupid, as I'm not exactly going places and raising my hood all the time. The carb runs fine, so I'm not sure it's that big of a deal. However, to clear the hood, they had to modify the Demon carb and eliminate the choke. Even in our sub zero cold, it seems to start fine.
As for the front springs, they removed coil until the car settled to about stock height... very unscientific, but Renegade did not provide very useful advice concerning springs.... just the fact that we removed one full coil revolution testifies to the lightness of the engine.
I also decided to bite the bullet and in a few weeks do the exhaust with Flowmaster 2 1/2 inch pipes. S & S Performance thinks it will produce a bit more power than the standard exhaust and sound a bit deeper, but still quiet.
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nice job!
as a stroker dude, I'd be a hypocrite to scoff at anything someone does to a P car... pistons, crank, cam mods, valves, bla bla bla all from domestic sources... does have the OEM valve covers and intake, but hardly all P car...
IMO, if it runs like you want it to, and looks like you want it to - then mission accomplished... heck, any shark that's running has me green w/envy...
happy holidays all!
as a stroker dude, I'd be a hypocrite to scoff at anything someone does to a P car... pistons, crank, cam mods, valves, bla bla bla all from domestic sources... does have the OEM valve covers and intake, but hardly all P car...
IMO, if it runs like you want it to, and looks like you want it to - then mission accomplished... heck, any shark that's running has me green w/envy...
happy holidays all!
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Many years ago someone asked "why would you put a heavy IRON SBC in place of an all aluminum Porsche engine?" The answer was "because an IRON SBC is 120 pounds LIGHTER!" Which begs the question, how many coils do you have to remove from the front springs if you install an all aluminum SBC?
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Uh, Oh, Lagonda... What a car! I've never seen one in real life, but read about it when it was introduced, read about the challenges they had with the electronics, and always hoped to see and maybe drive one some day.
Like kthe 928, that car was a shocker at its time. Its shape so radically different from anything Aston, and the electronics. I'm glad to see one that survived.
<drool - tongue ssticking to keyboarrrdd...Hhoow caan II gett it offfffffff?????>>
Like kthe 928, that car was a shocker at its time. Its shape so radically different from anything Aston, and the electronics. I'm glad to see one that survived.
<drool - tongue ssticking to keyboarrrdd...Hhoow caan II gett it offfffffff?????>>
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Malibu310:
Not trying to rain on your parade, just some suggestions:
-if ft ride height is too high, replace springs with something softer (from Hyperco or H&R)...DO NOT start cutting coils, as it is almost impossible to get them even.
-if you want the car to drive properly, alignment and corner weights are a must.....
-it might be necessary to install a swirl pot or surge tank in the cooling system, instead of the rad cap in the rad hose.....you have left no room for coolant expansion, or de-aeration.......
Not trying to rain on your parade, just some suggestions:
-if ft ride height is too high, replace springs with something softer (from Hyperco or H&R)...DO NOT start cutting coils, as it is almost impossible to get them even.
-if you want the car to drive properly, alignment and corner weights are a must.....
-it might be necessary to install a swirl pot or surge tank in the cooling system, instead of the rad cap in the rad hose.....you have left no room for coolant expansion, or de-aeration.......
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Thanks for the suggestions... I think it will take time to set up the suspension right... I did not feel that comfortable just cutting the springs...
I'm taking the car back to the shop tuesday (the windshield washer was not hooked up) and I'll ask about the expansion tank.
I'm taking the car back to the shop tuesday (the windshield washer was not hooked up) and I'll ask about the expansion tank.
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Malibu310:
Another point that I should have added - the expansion tank must be that only, a "flow-thru" tank does not seem to work as well. And you should find the highest point, and make a provision for bleeding air from the system when filling.
Custom installs take some time and effort to get all the little bugs worked out, just bear with it.
Another point that I should have added - the expansion tank must be that only, a "flow-thru" tank does not seem to work as well. And you should find the highest point, and make a provision for bleeding air from the system when filling.
Custom installs take some time and effort to get all the little bugs worked out, just bear with it.
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Like anything else... there's good work and shoddy work. This looks like the former and probably runs like a mashed cat...
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Originally Posted by Malibu310
$7,800 for original car
This was $5,000 more than I thought, but I wanted new wiring and the best hoses, and cables to detail under the bonnet (hood).
$28,860...
This was $5,000 more than I thought, but I wanted new wiring and the best hoses, and cables to detail under the bonnet (hood).
$28,860...
I'd say you've accomplished the hosing.
I bought a 1990GT fixer for $6000. So far I've got a perfect running car, new interior, belts, batt, AC, and some gew-gaws for under $8000. When I paint it next year, should be about $11,000 invested for a like new car.
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Originally Posted by docmirror
I'd say you've accomplished the hosing.
I bought a 1990GT fixer for $6000. So far I've got a perfect running car, new interior, belts, batt, AC, and some gew-gaws for under $8000. When I paint it next year, should be about $11,000 invested for a like new car.
I bought a 1990GT fixer for $6000. So far I've got a perfect running car, new interior, belts, batt, AC, and some gew-gaws for under $8000. When I paint it next year, should be about $11,000 invested for a like new car.
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Hey, You know how I feel about your Porschevys. I love em. and I know you and Adam and all the rest of us MN boys will have more fun with our cold water sharks than all the "purists". It's the balance that makes a 928 what it is, and if you need to replace a motor, why not a modern common repairable one. If I ever had the unfortunate need to swap a motor, it will be a PMC Chevy, marinized Corvette motor. Why the hell not. - Ruf
Hey, You know how I feel about your Porschevys. I love em. and I know you and Adam and all the rest of us MN boys will have more fun with our cold water sharks than all the "purists". It's the balance that makes a 928 what it is, and if you need to replace a motor, why not a modern common repairable one. If I ever had the unfortunate need to swap a motor, it will be a PMC Chevy, marinized Corvette motor. Why the hell not. - Ruf
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Originally Posted by Rufus Sanders
Rick
Hey, You know how I feel about your Porschevys. I love em. and I know you and Adam and all the rest of us MN boys will have more fun with our cold water sharks than all the "purists". It's the balance that makes a 928 what it is, and if you need to replace a motor, why not a modern common repairable one. If I ever had the unfortunate need to swap a motor, it will be a PMC Chevy, marinized Corvette motor. Why the hell not. - Ruf
Hey, You know how I feel about your Porschevys. I love em. and I know you and Adam and all the rest of us MN boys will have more fun with our cold water sharks than all the "purists". It's the balance that makes a 928 what it is, and if you need to replace a motor, why not a modern common repairable one. If I ever had the unfortunate need to swap a motor, it will be a PMC Chevy, marinized Corvette motor. Why the hell not. - Ruf
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