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Old 12-22-2004, 11:51 PM
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Chevy's plus 928s? Hey, you know I'm starting to get into this. I think I'll take my daughters Chevy Cavalier and drop this extra 4.2 L 928 engine into it!

I wonder if the original tach will work? :-)
Old 12-22-2004, 11:53 PM
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Sorry, but what the heck is an A-36?? Aircraft?
Old 12-23-2004, 12:04 AM
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If you give Devek a 928 S4 with a busted engine (worth less than USD4000) and get a new built 6.5 liter, new radiator, shocks and you'd land within the USD30K zone.. You'd then have 400+ to the wheels for about the same amount you are into your car and have a new built 928 engine in it..

What you have created is at best a well running 9000 dollar Porschevy, and it only cost you 28.000 (plus 3k).

Looks like nice worksmanship though, except for the tach.
Old 12-23-2004, 12:07 AM
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1986 928 S automatic with 402rwhp and 383rwtq total cost to date $18,000
0-60 in 4.6 sec 1/4 mile in 12.5 @ 118 mph. Top speed unknown at this point.
Whipple twinscrew on top of stock engine and components. That leaves me with 10k for bigger brakes and a few more goodies, and I still don't have any Chebby parts, just ford motor mounts!
Old 12-23-2004, 06:05 AM
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Malibu
I have to agree with anders....for about the same total cash you spent you could have had a full DEVEK 6.5L stroker putting out the same HP with more torque and retained the stock engine, plus when DEVEK does that kind of work they also check or fix lots of other little things that could be big problems later on! But to each his own, the car does look good....

I would be interested to see how your AVN turns out...but check out the Pioneer AVN1 or whatever the top end pioneer DVD is...very sweet with lots of features other models don't have or are options....cool GPS features with accelerometers built in! Worth a look?
Old 12-23-2004, 07:53 AM
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Default Probably would have re-thought...

When I started this car, I was looking under $20,000 for the complete conversion....

If I'd had known the $28K, I would have rethought the Devek... no doubt. However, I'm satisfied with the overall workmanship. Our other 928 was considerably less to build because it already had the Chevy in it, so the base conversion $$ was already done... we just had to put a proper Chevy engine in it.

If I had done all the work myself, instead of professionally done everything, the car would have been considerably less.

Again if I knew it would have been $28K, I most likely would have cseriously onsidered the Devek route!
Old 12-23-2004, 09:01 AM
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There's purists in every crowd.... but I think it looks pretty clean. I ran small chebbys in 240Z's for years finally ending up with a 400 ci w/turbo 350 auto trans. What an f'ing animal. 425/425 in a car made out of beer cans. Surprised and ate a ton of high end stuff.

Like anything else... there's good work and shoddy work. This looks like the former and probably runs like a mashed cat...
Old 12-23-2004, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by IcemanG17
for about the same total cash you spent you could have had a full DEVEK 6.5L stroker putting out the same HP with more torque and retained the stock engine
Stock engine? The stroker has Chevy internals, right? Where do you draw the line?
The real savings comes down the line when it needs any work: Chevy starter, Chevy aircond compresser, Chevy power steering pump, Chevy clutch, etc. = cheap. Of course one can argue that the Porsche stuff lasts longer?
Old 12-23-2004, 09:23 AM
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Default No thinking outside the box !!

If it's strictly about the money, then we should be investing in Las Vegas real estate. Criticism of how money was spent, is in direct proportion to what that money would've meant to the critic. Since it seems by your toys that the money wasn't your foremost consideration, let the currency become satisfaction. If the project was satisfying, (you can save money the next time around).
While it wasn't for purists, the yellow hybrid (before the accident) was awesome. You should post a pic of that car, if you want to see fur fly around here.
Old 12-23-2004, 10:17 AM
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Default Few Chevy parts in the Chevy...

The ONLY Chevy parts on the car are the block which was sent out and treated, and new Vortec heads which were ported and polished. The A/C Unit is also standard GM. All other parts are specialty performance items, another reason for over budget... I wanted reliable, even when driving hard, and we all know that these "hot rod" engines can be unreliable when you use stock components. I also wanted smooth... no irritating cam lobe rough running common to a high performance GM engine. I was originally going to go fuel injection, but it seemed complicated when we talked over 400 HP, and getting it set up properly. This project would have been at least $10,000 cheaper by taking a junk yard LT-1 Engine and using stock wiring, no engine detailing, and dropping the engine in it.

Again, here is our Yellow Beast, and my older Lagonda (I have a newer one, but I like the old style better)
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Old 12-23-2004, 10:41 AM
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You have an Aston Martin Lagonda in the twin cities? (please don't tell me it has a chevy motor in it). Next time I do a run to visit my sister, I know who I'll be calling! (and the rest of the twin cities gang I keep ditching)

Love the wheels - I have not seen a Lagonda in person for at least 10 years.
Old 12-23-2004, 11:16 AM
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Lagonda...

The car that Top Gear called the most outrageous car ever built. Way over budget, and styled like it didn't care. Electronics is supposed to be way worse than the 928s (I have that episode of topgear in digital form if anyones interrested)

You must be absolutely mad to have not one, but TWO, of these, yet somehow I feel the world needs more people like you. You know, the kind that doesn't give a damn what people think
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Malibu,

don't let the purists rain on your parade...to them is more about the "image" than the car! Not that I dislike the porsche engine, but it has its weaknesses as most will admit. Not to mention that repairs or upgrades to just then engine can easily cost more than the whole car is worth. I find it laughable that forced induction of our engines is acceptable but a more modern, lighter, efficient, or better mill of a different brand suddenly lessens our cars... as if they are somehow elevated in anything more than the owners minds.

The only question I have is why you didn't opt for the GM performance products LS-1 crate engine for $6200 complete with fuel injection, very efficient headers and a terminal block style computer? For a a lot less money you would have ended up with a NEW very modern aluminum engine that dynos at 406 HP , has a fat, flat torque curve that starts as low as 2000 rpm, idles smooth as silk, is smog compliant weighs almost 200 lbs less than the LT1 is a great platform to build even more power onto... (not to mention a factory warranty)?
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Default Hindsight...

If I had it over to do again, I'd probably get the crate motor...

The Lagonda I have now is a Series 4, which has the electronic bugs worked out. The Lagonda was the first production (if you call 645 units in 13 years as production) car with a digital dash. The early cars had touch sensitive switches, each of the 70 switches had their own relay... each of English design. The Series two had less switches (the car in the photo graph), but still cheap looking digits. The Series 3 had three TV Screens. My first Lagonda was a Series 3, the screens had vertical rolls, like 1950 TV sets... very irritating, no adjustment! The Series 4 has plazma screens and very different electronics. The older cars had that fantastic Aston V8 (hemi Heads, 4 Dual Overhead Cams, and 4 Webber two barrel carbs. The Series 4 has english designed fuel injection which looks awful.

Here is a picture of the new one (Lagondas are hand formed... no stampings)

Keep in mind the design is almost three decades old.
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Originally Posted by John V
Malibu,

don't let the purists rain on your parade...to them is more about the "image" than the car! Not that I dislike the porsche engine, but it has its weaknesses as most will admit. Not to mention that repairs or upgrades to just then engine can easily cost more than the whole car is worth. I find it laughable that forced induction of our engines is acceptable but a more modern, lighter, efficient, or better mill of a different brand suddenly lessens our cars... as if they are somehow elevated in anything more than the owners minds.

The only question I have is why you didn't opt for the GM performance products LS-1 crate engine for $6200 complete with fuel injection, very efficient headers and a terminal block style computer? For a a lot less money you would have ended up with a NEW very modern aluminum engine that dynos at 406 HP , has a fat, flat torque curve that starts as low as 2000 rpm, idles smooth as silk, is smog compliant weighs almost 200 lbs less than the LT1 is a great platform to build even more power onto... (not to mention a factory warranty)?
Not a purist really just know that there is A LOT of RELIABILITY in the stock engine, a person has just got to do the maintenance properly as with any piece of equipment. No I personally just don't like Chebby. Now if Malibu had sad he stuck a Ford motor in his 928 I would have applauded him! At least then his distributer would be in the right place.


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