928fan4life

If you were to race an s4 against say my year of car how badly would my car get beat? From 0-60 and 60-120

AO

You'd be suprised... wait a minute... you have an AT. Sorry, but I think you'd get beat pretty bad all around. I have a 5-speed. I can usually keep up (within a car length) to around 80-90 then they seem to drop the hammer and are GONE! The nice thing about a 5 speed though is that most S4's are AT's so on the highway crusing at 70mph, I can usually get a jump on them when going to 100+. With your 3sp AT, I'm surry but you're prolly gonna suck a lot of wind. It also depends on the driving you're doing. S4's have 70+ hp (or is it 90?) so of course they have an advantage.

FeedNfrenZ

Check the status for yourself http://www.928registry.org/1977-1982...odel-linfo.htm
compared to http://www.928registry.org/1987-1991...model-info.htm

Cameron

If you are talking about a stop light drag race, I think that a US '80 auto will do 0 - 60mph in about 7.5 sec. An S4 auto will do it in about 6.0 sec. A GT will do it in about 5.3 sec.

If you are talking about an autocross run, you have a weight advantage and might win.

.....Cameron
'91 Euro GT

928fan4life

Cameron - Really! Are you sure about that. How much more does an s4 weigh over a non s4?

PorKen

At stock weight and tune, you'd get beat hard.

The later automatic cars are heavier, but have a lower first gear.

My '81 is 300+lbs lighter and tuned a bit, and I could keep up with some punks in 32V cars on a mountain highway. But I was afraid to keep very close, because they brake a whole lot better from high speeds, especially after repeated slowing.

On a straight though, they just walk away. GT's especially, after 4000 rpm, they just gobble up road.

BTW: if someone offers to let you drive their GT, don't do it! It'll spoil you rotten.

Shane

Who are you callin' punks?

Jim bailey - 928 International

going up from the typical 185 -190 rear wheel horsepower of a 1980-1982 makes a big difference.

Shane

Lets see if I can remember?
Louis Ott leading in his '87 5sp.
Me in my '86.5 5sp
Garth in his 93 GTS 5sp.
Heinrich in his 85 S auto
John in his '87 auto
and yep you kept up just fine!

928fan4life

Jim - That is all my car can put out in HP? That is sad! What would be required to get it to the 275-300 whp range?

AO

Super Charger or Twin Turbo

Jadz928

Drop in a Euro 4.7L or Euro Hybrid 5.0L and an open exhaust.

Lagavulin

You can install a supercharger as Andrew suggests, or, drop in a Euro motor.

If it were me, I'd go the Euro route, but it would be much simpler installing a centrifugal supercharger.

Jim bailey - 928 International

The Hybrid 16 valve engines using a 5 liter 85-86 short block Euro heads ,Cams,intake headers race exhaust have outputs in that range of 275-300 as I recall.

Adam C

Growing up, my father had a US spec 1982 928. He loved that car - and it seemed powerful. It was an automatic, and I rode in it often. It seemed very fast to me then, this would have been about 1988 and the car was relatively new. He drove it in a very spirited fashion and I was always thrilled when he would punch it from a light.

In 1992, he sold that car and purchased a 1988 S4 - I remember my first drive in that car - the acceleration seemed violent. It was a 5 speed, but even so, it seemed light a much, much more powerful car. It was a whole different kind of fast - I remember being scared to autocross in that car because of the speeds he would hit.

I've ridden in GTs and GTSs. There is far less difference between a GT or GTs and an S4 than between an S4 and an early car.