bigs

I searched back quite a ways in prior threads and did not find the answer to this question (although I didn't go back to when the world was young!), so if it has already been discussed, please forgive me and point me to the location.

I want to have a total repaint done in the not-too-distant future. I have a 93 Guards Red GTS. Any opinions as to the best brand of paint to use? My mechanics favor Glasurit, and it certainly has a fine reputation. Any others to consider? And I have also read somewhere that Porsche did not use clear coat on red cars. Anyone know why, and should a repaint also avoid a clear coat?

Thanks in advance.

svo2r

DuPont chroma base/clear or DuPont Chroma one if you want a single stage non clear coat.

rixter

why not use factory paint?

Rez

I'm going to paint using PPG.
http://www.ppg.com/cr-refinish/phase1/frmPickRegion.asp
http://www.ditzlerautopaint.com/today.html

I'm planning on doing all the prep/prime, buying everything and paying someone to do the final sanding and to shoot the paint. This will no doubt save me the thousands it takes for someone to do it right.

Many purists will argue to use the German paints, such as Glasurit and Spies Hecker. I've found these to be pretty expensive, so I'm defaulting to the PPG, which is still a really good paint.

Clear coat over solid colors is just not needed and really has few benefits, if any. What it will do is slow fading of the color coat, but colors like red will fade no matter what you do and once locked under a coat of clear there is nothing you can do to bring it back. The clear will also take away some of the color depth and brightness which will worsen as the paint surface ages because it reflects away some of the light.

The clear coat also adds another step and expense along with potential problems during application and maintanance. The base coat has to be perfect, once the clear's on any stray dust specks or flaws will be harder to deal with; being under the clear, you must repair both layers or re-do the entire panel. With single stage small flaws are just a matter of buffing them out or maybe some light sanding first. The little rock chips that you will get across the nose and mirrors of a 928 are much easier to touch-up without the clear also.

borland

Unless you paint the whole car, stick to Glasurit base coat for better match. Your painter will still need to paint whole panels.

The reason they use a two coat process (base and clear) is because it looks better.

Finding the best painter is key to good results.

slate blue

Go with Glas, you will just use more of the cheaper paint. The cheaper paints are like water when compared to Glasurit.

Jack '84 928s

Dupont Chromabase. I have it on my car took less gallon to paint it. And i have like 6 coats of clear on it.

bigs

Does anyone know the brand of the factory paint? Is it just simply "Porsche paint?" And if I choose not to use a clear coat, is there any reason to use more than two coats of base?

rixter

bigs
call your local dealer, oem paint is available from them for about $80/quart

Rez

I disagree. Not for the solid colors, for my reasons stated above. I think the factory used Glasurit, but I'm telling you PPG will come out just as good. It's all in the prep work anyway. No need to paint more than two layers unless you want lots of protection or you are going to buff it out to give it that really really deep red.

okbarnett

Most of the factory German paints are Glasurit or Sikkens. Of course they may have varying mixtures because they buy bulk amounts and also experiment with new varietys of paint.
To replicate your job here, you have to use what is available and mixed in your town. Most cities have Glasurit and Sikkens dealers so its not too much trouble finding a shop that uses one of them. I have used Glasurit for years and wouldnt have anything else on my car. Its great stuff to work with and outlasts all my cars. But be advised, Glasurit is expensive. Thats why not many people use it and prefer other brands.
My advise would be , that if you want a no compromise job, go find a shop that is in the business of painting high end cars, and normally uses Glasurit and other top quality products. Youll get you car done once and for all. And it will probibly last till you get rid of it.
As for the variety of paint you use; Probibly 55 Line which is a base coat /clear coat , uruthane acryllic.

Chris

Is it also true that even the 'budget' paints today are light years ahead of the original paint technology that is on most of our 928's ??

This doesn't distract form the Glasurit v others but just getting some perspective.

Chris

Rob Roy

Whats the concensus on House of Kolor paint? I know it is used by quite a few in the hot rod community.

bigs

And here's another question I'll throw out just for personal opinions. What about painting my GTS a color that is close to, but not quite the same as Guards Red? i.e. maybe a bright metallic red, or even something closer to candy apple red - something that is not a stock Porsche color. (I wouldn't want to stray too far from the stock color or the engine compartment would look totally off color, and I'm not prepared to do a body-off restoration!) Would this "cheapen" the car in the eyes of most Porschephiles? Do most folks in the Porsche community prefer the purist approach of sticking with stock colors? I pose this question with an eye toward, who knows, maybe someday selling the car.

mspiegle

I think with most cars, changing the paint color to a non-OEM color will lessen its value.

So let me get this straight - the Prussia Blue paint on my 86.5 was actually made by Glasurit? How much paint does it typically take to do repaint a car? How expensive is glasurit?

I was considering a repaint one of these days, but these details which are unknown to me make me hesitant.