Mark

Saw this 944 on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...e=STRK:MEWA:IT
- asked the seller where it was located...I got the following email in response. (below - after my comments)
-ebayguard.net - I never heard of it - whois lookup shows it was only started last week!
-squaretrade has no record of the seller (the ebayquard site is SUPPOSEDLY run by squaretrade!)
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Hi there,

My car is in MINT condition as you can see from the pictures. Everything is working perfectly and nothing needs to be done to this awesome Porsche 944...oh, yes it does ... a GOOD DRIVER and everything is fixed then. The car is at the shipper's warehouse here in New York City (Manhattan area) and is crated and ready to be shipped out as soon as I have the confirmation from eBay that you've deposited the money in their account.

Buy it now is correct ! $2,500.00 and the Porsche can be yours and I can have it shipped to anywhere in the US. I need your full name and full address so we can make all the shipping arrangements imediately after you completed the payment.

You will be approved ONLY if you will pay in full through eBay Safe Guard. Way you pay, you will be insured for the entire value of the purchase. I have 10,000.00 USD deposit in an eBay managed purchase protection account. Transactions with them are covered by purchase protection against fraud and description errors.

In case you don't get what you are paying for, you get a full refund.

I OFFER FREE SHIPPING ONLY IF WE CLOSE THE DEAL THRU eBay !

If you agree you must send an email to support@ebayguard.net with following information:

-Seller ID
-Buyer ID
-Item #
-Buy it Now price

As soon as you agree and confirm the payment I will start the shipping process and you will be the happiest owner of this awesome porsche.

Best Regards!

kary4th

ebayguardnet is pure B.S. unless a guy named Hiroshi Sunaoka recently purchased eBay.

No two ways about it, this is a scam.

______________
Registration Service Provided By: BRAVENET.COM
Contact: domain-return at bravenet.com
Website: bravenet.com
Abuse Desk Email Address: domain-return at bravenet.com

Domain Name: EBAYGUARD.NET

Registrant:
hiroshi sunaoka
hiroshi sunaoka (3949747325) (putulika at aol.com)
5121 milne dr
NA
torrance
CA,90505
US
Tel. +0.3103163812

Creation Date: 26-Oct-2004
Expiration Date: 26-Oct-2005

Domain servers in listed order:
ns3.bravehost.com
ns4.bravehost.com


Administrative Contact:
hiroshi sunaoka
hiroshi sunaoka (3949747325) (putulika at aol.com)
5121 milne dr
NA
torrance
CA,90505
US
Tel. +0.3103163812

Technical Contact:
hiroshi sunaoka
hiroshi sunaoka (3949747325) (putulika at aol.com)
5121 milne dr
NA
torrance
CA,90505
US
Tel. +0.3103163812

Billing Contact:
hiroshi sunaoka
hiroshi sunaoka (3949747325) (putulika at aol.com)
5121 milne dr
NA
torrance
CA,90505
US
Tel. +0.3103163812

Status:ACTIVE

pete944

Someone should crate him up and give him free shipping to Afghanistan.

Jakerx

hasn't this car been on rennlist before? i mean hasnt it been discussed? i remember seeing it on car domain once too...anyone have the link? maybe it's not the owner of the car posting it but someone using his pictures and info?

Flight_951

Contact eBay. They take the auctions down quickly.

josephsc

Scammers usually borrow ID and photos. I had a scammer last year who used photos of my car -- so I toyed with him for awhile. Tracked him down to an IP address in Italy.

You know, Torrance isn't too far away from me... I could have fun with him. How much does it cost to send a 150lbs crate to Afghanistan?

CMW

I wonder if we couldn't get about 30 Porsches with drivers and passengers to do a drive by and see the car in person "shipper's warehouse here in New York City (Manhattan area)"(Torrance).

Joe I live in San Pedro, Mike Spigel lives in Torrance

pete944

The car is in Kentucky. Here's the owners CarDomain site.
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/575544/1

This bunghole even copied the description word for word from the CarDomain site.
I hope he gets burned.

Jim bailey - 928 International

The big red flag ! free shipping for a $2,500 car ......Yea right it would cost $1,200 or so to send it to California ...........

CWO4Mann

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Greetings My Dear One! In the Name of The Greatest One, Peace Be upon yours, you and your family of Loved Ones!. Please to be permissing me to Introduce and Acquaint Myself with Your! I am humbly and Passivatively the Most Very Reverend, Prince A-too Bru-Tay, a Member of the Royal House of Lugie, Formerly The Peoples Most Innocent and Democratic Republican Government of Shakabigdickland. You Are Of Course Knowing, My Dear One, that the passivities of aother horrors of life's many passions have taken a Great Toll upon Me and My Late and Lamented Family. You, See my Dearest One, My Late Brother, Prince Watit-was, was a very Expensive Driving Expert. Oh Yes, He was a Dearly Departed Driver of SOme MEans and especially of the Very Fine Automotive Products produced at the Germanic Magestiecs Factory call Porsches. My Goodness, when My Der Departed Brother was Taken Suddenly From Ours, by the accidental explosive nature of a two hundred kilogram container of nitrouous oxide gas into his carberetter, well, My Dear, we felt the need to Expunge ourselves of his Automobile Collection! Please Dear Sir! Our Family is otherwise interested in only preserving the memory and history of a fine automibiteve car. We have in the small garage at The Palace, a series of many Porsche Cars, To Wit: 3 green ones, 5 orange ones, 10 Black Ones, and several with specialty paint from the Germanic Factory. There Engines are so Very Clean that Ackmed and his Family, the Loyal Retainers and Garage Keepers regularly eat the various meals from the tops of the Eingines. Oh Please Sir, Will you Please send only a small Deposit of Money to our accounts to secure one of these rare and very eidible cars of the Honorable German Gentleman Mister Ferdinand. I will provide the appropriate PayPal account as you would need same to provide the appropriate One THousand Dollars (in Official United States of American Current Moneys). Oh My Dear, I am Thanks You and May the Peache and Love of the Greatest All of One be Upon You and your, Etcetera, etcetera.!

Mark

eBay was quick to take it down!
I sent the "seller" an email telling him I would be in NYC on biz this week, and wanted to inspect the car! I m SURE I won't hear back....except maybe a quick $2000 offer to purchase!

Mark

I caught him online - based on the email addy he used to respond to my inquiry about the car...here is an IM we had...

CICMark [4:16 PM]: Hey - I was interested in your 944..it is no longer on eBay - did you already sell it?

Wtmalegria [4:17 PM]: no
Wtmalegria [4:17 PM]: i've ended the auction because of an ebayer
Wtmalegria [4:17 PM]: and now he want to pay only $2,000.00 which is not fair
Wtmalegria [4:18 PM]: if you do want the car from me you must email to ebay safe guard that you want to buy it from me for the total amount of $2,500
CICMark [4:18 PM]: I don't blame you...can you give me the VIN so I can CarFax it...also - I an in NYC on business later this week and would like to go see it.

Wtmalegria [4:19 PM]: you must complete the payment before coming in NYC to hold the car for you
Wtmalegria [4:19 PM]: here is the VIN# WP0AB0943HN473328
CICMark [4:19 PM]: ok...so - even tho it is off of ebay, their safeguard will handle the transaction?

Wtmalegria [4:19 PM]: yes
CICMark [4:20 PM]: I'm not familiar with 'safeguard' = is it something new?

Wtmalegria [4:20 PM]: its like an escrow service
CICMark [4:20 PM]: oh...ok...that's cool
Wtmalegria [4:20 PM]: yes i know
Wtmalegria [4:21 PM]: you send the payment confirmation to them instead of me
Wtmalegria [4:21 PM]: it was to much fraud on ebay and they handle the situation right now
Wtmalegria [4:21 PM]: both of us are protected
CICMark [4:21 PM]: ok - I'll look into it...thanks

Wtmalegria [4:21 PM]: ok please hurry
CICMark [4:22 PM]: I'd really like to see the car first

CICMark [4:23 PM]: I can't see the car without buying it?
CICMark [4:24 PM]: hello?
CICMark [4:24 PM]: well - anyway - give me the ebay guard info so I can check it out - the ebay listing had all the info and it's no longer listed

Wtmalegria [4:26 PM]: Their email address is support@ebayguard.net what info's you need about the transaction?
CICMark [4:26 PM]: I wanna see the car
Wtmalegria [4:26 PM]: ok
Wtmalegria [4:26 PM]: saturday
Wtmalegria [4:27 PM]: afternoon
Wtmalegria [4:27 PM]: is that ok?
CICMark [4:27 PM]: I'll need to check and see if I can change my flight plans - I am supposed to leave Friday around 3pm

CICMark [4:28 PM]: a question about the car, too - are the brakes the 3 piston bremba's?
Wtmalegria [4:29 PM]: yes
CICMark [4:30 PM]: ok - I'll let you know if I can change my flights - otherwise, any way you could meet me with ot Friday somewhere near JFK Airport?
Wtmalegria [4:30 PM]: i'm working at JFK Saturday
CICMark [4:31 PM]: will you be driving it Saturday - if I can change my flights
Wtmalegria [4:31 PM]: YES
CICMark [4:32 PM]: What if I bring cash, and if I like it I'll drive it away on Saturday?...or do I still have to do the ebayguard thing?
CICMark [4:34 PM]: how long have you had the car?

CICMark [4:34 PM]: ??
Wtmalegria [4:36 PM]: you'll have to go thru ebay guard and if you do like the car you'll take it with you.
Wtmalegria [4:36 PM]: if not ebay guard will refund all your money until your last cent
CICMark [4:36 PM]: ok
CICMark [4:36 PM]: how long have u had the car?
CICMark [4:38 PM]: ??
CICMark [4:39 PM]: I guess you are busy

daniel951

i actually know the guy of the blue porsche. i talked to a while back about the halo lights which he told me he could get them for me for $90 +$10shipping

Cass944

ohhh its one of those 3 piston bremba models huh... hah

rixter

Mark, you forgot to ask him if the sc was performing properly...