Bringing old spoilers back to new
10-30-2004, 10:29 PM
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Bringing old spoilers back to new
Hi to all, I believe I have found a treatment that brings the old S type spoilers both front and rear back to new. First the rear, the rubber needs to be in relatively good condition, i.e no cracks or pieces falling off it. My spoiler on my 85 was dull and the surface was degrading, by that it didn't have its smooth surface which they have when they are new. (I had my 84 to compare it to which has new spoilers all round.)
We had previously done a test patch to make sure the paint wouldn't come off. We tried to pull the paint off with masking tape, paint stayed put! I then cleaned the surface with Glasurit plastic cleaner and then I applied the paint in full, to the rear spoiler (3 pieces) It took a full litre, that costs about $50 USD. The paint is actually more flexible than the spoilers, so it wont crack and fall off due to lack of ability to flex with the substrate.
The spoiler doesn't just look painted but in fact it looks new, it does take quite a few coats to fill the surface and give it that new semi smooth look, infact I think that the surface imperfections actually may help the paint grip, the paint is very thin and as such can seep into every pore and cavity. So end result, bloody spectacular.
Front spoiler, the paint sticks to this also, I have plastic cleaned and primed it. I also applied new ripple finish with a flex additive to the areas I had to repair. This also just looks the business. As to the early S4 spoilers that are black, I can't imagine why it wouldn't work on them, but I haven't tried it.
Disclaimer, no long term testing has been done, I will monitor this closely, also the paint has a UV stabiliser in it, so the sun and weather shouldn't be a problem but time will tell. I don't intend on selling this product, if somebody wants to buy a gallon later to distribute I will put you in touch with the supplier. The place I got the paint from also sold me some leather paint, this was a water based paint, again it was super adherant, it just wont come off, my trimmer was quite amazed, he then started to use them. Normally leather painting can be indifferent, so I take it there are paints and paints, just like with Auto refinishers, there is Glasurit and then there is the rest.
We had previously done a test patch to make sure the paint wouldn't come off. We tried to pull the paint off with masking tape, paint stayed put! I then cleaned the surface with Glasurit plastic cleaner and then I applied the paint in full, to the rear spoiler (3 pieces) It took a full litre, that costs about $50 USD. The paint is actually more flexible than the spoilers, so it wont crack and fall off due to lack of ability to flex with the substrate.
The spoiler doesn't just look painted but in fact it looks new, it does take quite a few coats to fill the surface and give it that new semi smooth look, infact I think that the surface imperfections actually may help the paint grip, the paint is very thin and as such can seep into every pore and cavity. So end result, bloody spectacular.
Front spoiler, the paint sticks to this also, I have plastic cleaned and primed it. I also applied new ripple finish with a flex additive to the areas I had to repair. This also just looks the business. As to the early S4 spoilers that are black, I can't imagine why it wouldn't work on them, but I haven't tried it.
Disclaimer, no long term testing has been done, I will monitor this closely, also the paint has a UV stabiliser in it, so the sun and weather shouldn't be a problem but time will tell. I don't intend on selling this product, if somebody wants to buy a gallon later to distribute I will put you in touch with the supplier. The place I got the paint from also sold me some leather paint, this was a water based paint, again it was super adherant, it just wont come off, my trimmer was quite amazed, he then started to use them. Normally leather painting can be indifferent, so I take it there are paints and paints, just like with Auto refinishers, there is Glasurit and then there is the rest.
10-31-2004, 12:43 AM
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Hey Greg.
We spray a lot of Glasurit. What is the product number you are talking about? I suspect you might be better off with a coat of Polyester filling primer first and then a couple of light coats of top coat color. I worry about the mil thickness you may have put on. Let me know the details. I don't know everything about painting, but I do know quite a lot.
Thanks.
We spray a lot of Glasurit. What is the product number you are talking about? I suspect you might be better off with a coat of Polyester filling primer first and then a couple of light coats of top coat color. I worry about the mil thickness you may have put on. Let me know the details. I don't know everything about painting, but I do know quite a lot.
Thanks.
10-31-2004, 01:07 AM
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Hi Colin, I just painted my 87 S4 seats and they just look like there are brand new. Admitidly there were in good cond as far as the leather went. Just scuffed with general wear and tear as things go. I had the drivers seat faces replaced, i.e the squab and cushion. To refresh everything I painted all the seats so that they would match well. The paint is colour matched by computor to a sample you supply. The colour is water based and it has a solvent based clear coat. That clear coat can be matt or gloss and any combination of the two.
It sticks real well and doesn't even look like the seats have been painted, all this depends on your attention to detail. I fully disassembled the seats to paint them. It took me a full weekend to disassemble clean, tape and paint them. The paint is again very thin, and gets into every nook and cranny. The solvent topcoat is then supposed to go over the colour and penetrate it and the leather as such lock the material to the leather. That is all I know about the mechanism of action.
Hey Fast, the paint for the spoiler is not a Glasurit paint, I don't know who makes it. It comes in a unmarked bottle. These guys buy it in bulk and decant it. It is very low solids, many coats wouldn't equal one coat of Glasurit primer. So many coats was annoying to apply but worth it in the end. Yes I'm aware of the problem of too thick application. The thing is, it didn't look any good till I applied so many coats. It needed to slowly build up the surface. It is still very flexible, you can bend it as much as you can bend the spoiler and no problems noted. If you want I can send you a bottle to try. I don't want to make any money on this just solve an old problem.
I wish I had a digital camera, it just looks awesome, not only to what it used to look like, but also a new one.
It sticks real well and doesn't even look like the seats have been painted, all this depends on your attention to detail. I fully disassembled the seats to paint them. It took me a full weekend to disassemble clean, tape and paint them. The paint is again very thin, and gets into every nook and cranny. The solvent topcoat is then supposed to go over the colour and penetrate it and the leather as such lock the material to the leather. That is all I know about the mechanism of action.
Hey Fast, the paint for the spoiler is not a Glasurit paint, I don't know who makes it. It comes in a unmarked bottle. These guys buy it in bulk and decant it. It is very low solids, many coats wouldn't equal one coat of Glasurit primer. So many coats was annoying to apply but worth it in the end. Yes I'm aware of the problem of too thick application. The thing is, it didn't look any good till I applied so many coats. It needed to slowly build up the surface. It is still very flexible, you can bend it as much as you can bend the spoiler and no problems noted. If you want I can send you a bottle to try. I don't want to make any money on this just solve an old problem.
I wish I had a digital camera, it just looks awesome, not only to what it used to look like, but also a new one.
