Nicole

Hmmmm.... I don't agree that everything practical has to be, or should be allowed to be ugly. Our cars aren't, so I don't want to put anything ugly into mine.

Below are a few examples of fire extinguishers that do the job without being hazardous to your taste buds...

Here are some "un-ugly" powder extingushers for the car:
http://www.gloria.de/feuer/tragb_loesch/pul_f.html (Click on the little sunglasses symbol to see individual pictures...)
http://www.minimax.de/en/produkte/lo...akt/index.html

Here are some really "girly" ones for the home:
http://www.gloria.de/feuer/tragb_loesch/pul_f6.html (Click on the little sunglasses symbol to see individual pictures...)
http://www.gloria.de/feuer/tragb_loesch/pul_f2000.html (too cool!)

Why does everything have to look the same? Why should it stay the same, if there is a way to make it better?

Maybe my thinking is just too European... <sigh>

fst951

I have the clutch bearings. They aren't easy to get because Denso any other companies have them made with custom numbers. Once you find a cross over no problem. However, you do need a double roller with trust load handling features built in for when the cluch engages. The bearings cost about $25 ea.

Thanks!

SteveG

Is it me or the PO, but I have several probably oem lug nuts x threaded? I suspect it has something to do with physical limitations of they alloy nuts which are expendable, but require a rethreader when you replace it. Discount suppliers on ebay and direct can't be bothered to know what sizes are in their products, so I'm off to the next one who says, "Duh, I have 600 items listed on ebay, I don't know, uhhhhh . . .". I suppose I will shell out the $90 for a Hanson kit and be done with it. A 12mm rethreader would sell well in the $10.00 range.

SharkSkin

Ron, I don't know whether it's the same or not. They offer just about zero information as to what FM-200 is, but I imagine it's similar. For double the price, they had better quit skirting the issue of exactly WTF that stuff is. They post a ten-dollar word... "heptafluropropane" that probably means something to a chemist but in my ignorance I see the last two syllables of that and it gives me pause.

As for my leather.... well, let's just say I wish it was easy to restore as the rest of the car has been.

Nicole, in matters of taste, there is no right and wrong, "too european", etc.

IMHO:

Dry chem extinguisher=ugly mess someday
No gauge=ugly mess some day when you need it but it isn't charged
Plastic handle=ugly mess if it breaks in an accident and you can't activate the unit
Above issues addressed with my unit=beautiful.

So you see, it's a matter of taste.

On one occasion, during my AAA tow driver gig, I saw a plastic-valved extinguisher that had snapped free from its plastic bracket during an accident and smashed the mechanism. All that was left of the valve/nozzle assembly was jagged plastic with the valve plunger sticking up out of it. Without the leverage of the original mechanism it was impossible to push the plunger by hand to activate the extinguisher(a couple of guys other than myself tried it). The results might have been less than optimal anyway, with no nozzle. Fortunately this wasn't a factor in the situation, as there was no fire. Now, I do realize that plastics have come a long way in the last 20 years. However, I still lean very heavily toward all-metal for this application.

If I had found a nicer unit that fit my needs without killing my wallet I would have bought it.

If anyone sees a sleeker Halotron or equivalent unit, all metal with a gauge to display status, please post a link!

Fastest928

Nicole,
We looked at a trap door for the oil drain, but, the oil does not follow a constant stream....and if the seal washers sticks to the block, then the oil can go everywhere...who will clean up that mess.

And the two trap doors for the filter and the drain can be a hazard...what happens when "1" screw falls out cause it was not properly installed? The door flaps down and bad things happen.

We looked at it and quite frankly, it just does not make good engineering sense..........

We were at the track abotu amonth ago and watched a 911 burn ....here is thesequence of events:

1-car on fire
2-driver pulls over right in front of us
3-driver unbuckles and leans off to the right for a few seconds
4-driver get out of car
5 driver runs around to other side of car and tries to open door
6 door will not open
7 driver runs around car without fire ext
8 fire truck shows up and puts out fire

morale - the fire ext must be within arms reach, or accessable as you exit the vehicle, otherwise it is not effective ...not "past arms reach" as mounted at the pass side base of seat.

Relay pliers are available for sale..see me if you want a pair

Flux capacitors are available from YoYodyne, see John Bigbutte

Marc
DEVEK

tuk_928

ColinB,
Not only is Halon a chloroflouorocarbon (CFC) but isn't it a known carcinogen as well?
Surely the dry powder shiite is just as "deadly"...

Re: location of fire extinguishers for Sharks. Idea...why doesn't someone come up with a direct- injection nozzle (permanently mounted) that with the touch of a well-protected button "fires" from the canister to the fuse/relay panel area? That would save the time it takes to frantically pull the cover, mess around with the fire extinguisher, etc. I suppose another one could be mounted in the engine bay? I'm sure someone has thought about this and already ruled it out for good reasons....

Tim

ColinB

Hi Tuk
Yes I believe Halon is carcinogenic too. A great pity. It's the most astounding extinguishant you can imagine. It's almost magic. In action it appears to 'eat' flames.

I've never heard of Sharkskin's Halotron but if it's EPA approved that could be the way to go. Your other options are all non-starters. viz
Halon- CFC
Powder or foam- Messy
CO2- Greenhouse gas
Water- Nearly useless and no good for electric fires.

That said and on reflection, a car on fire probably produces more pollutants in the form of products of combustion than the contents of a halon or CO2 extinguisher anyway so maybe it's a reasonable trade-off. Ultimately any kind of extinguisher is probably better than none. You can always use it to break a window!

Colin

heinrich

I created 3 years ago, a full 2mm bellypan with appropriate oil drain access. I posted it here but received only inquiries on how to make them, no interest in buying them, at the time the price was 100 bucks each, and the big 3 had no aftermarket ones. So I gave up. I still run my own pans on my 928's, they extend to almost cover the cats, and I love them. No I will not sell them

heinrich

Why is there no lexan or glass sunroof replacement? I'd buy one.
Packaged viscous fan --->> electrical fan solution?
MSD coil replacement package?
Aftermarket engine harness?
Mecanical window winder kit?
Aftermarket window/sunroof/wiper switches?
Battery cable extender for sealed batteries?
Battery ground cutoff switch?
Rear quarter flattening kit?
Roof rack and Tow hitch aftermarket parts? (Porsche parts too expensive)
Aftermarket (good) windshield?
Aluminium body panels (custom but mass-produced)?

SharkSkin

How long are your arms? I've practiced and I can get the fire extinguisher in my hand in virtually no time at all, even with a passenger there. The key IMHO is to mount it so you can grab it by the handle without having to lean too far.

heinrich

How about that useless space in front of the seat behind the driver ..... That is where mine is.

Fastest928

H, that is a good spot...

Dave, it is easier to do when you are not on fire...self preservation actions often take a higher priority and what is close is the only options...keep the fire ext close. Aircraft rule of thumb..if you cant reach it while sitting in the standard position, it is of no value....

lots of ways to skin a cat!!

Marc
DEVEK

heinrich

[QUOTE=marc@DEVEK]... Dave, it is easier to do when you are not on fire...

Dennis K

Also, at the race track, the organizations that require a fire extinguisher, require it to be within arms reach while you are tightly belted into the seat with a 5 or 6 point harness. With the racing seatbelts, you're not able reach over to the passenger seat area.

SharkSkin

True, true... Truth be told, if I didn't have a 5-speed that puppy would be on the front of the driver seat. With my big feet having to move around, activate the clutch, etc it just gets in the way.

I have no intention of ever adding a racing harness to the car; If it was a beater I might consider just drilling holes in the dash or whatever to mount it, but I have self-imposed limitations on where I'm willing to mount the thing. Back seat on floor would be nice if I never had passengers back there, but such is not the case. Bottom line, it's fine right where it is IMHO.

Thanks for all the input though!