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Old 07-31-2004, 10:18 PM
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Default Sloped driveway- How do I determine whether car is level?

I have a sloped driveway and need to do transmission service. I already have some ramps to back the car up on to and built shorter ones to bring the front up close to level. My rudimentary difference in slope/wheelbase/ramp height calculation went awry somewhere and the car is still nose down. My question is this: Where can I place a level in the car to determine if it's sitting flat? This is my situation now:
Old 07-31-2004, 10:27 PM
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The door sill?
Old 07-31-2004, 10:33 PM
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That's kind of what I was thinking, but I wanted to be sure from someone who know positively...
Old 07-31-2004, 10:42 PM
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Go somewhere you know to be level like a parking lot or street. Find a level surface on the car when it is on known level ground. Use that.
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maybe hold a level up to the bottom of the rocker panel. Most of our cars have a ride height front/rear that is not perfectly to spec anyway, so maybe the bottom of the car is a good indicator of "level".
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try putting level on trans pan.
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String bubble level held to the middle of the wheel center cap. Or you can buy a laser level and attach to the wheel as Cap'n Earl did:
http://members.rennlist.com/captearlg/928aligndiy.html
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Put a level along the side mouldings. Besisdes preventing door dings, it runs level along the car.
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When the fuzzy dice on the mirror stop swinging, drop a plumb bob from .... ...
Actually, I just placed a 2' level on each of the window sill, side trim strip and door sill: for a car at stock ride height on a perfectly level floor, my '80 is showing 1/8" nose down per 12" when perfectly level ( all 3 locations). Couldn't check the S4, as the nose is way up on jack stands.
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Why don't you place a long 2x4 across the ramps, and place a normal level on that
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Take 1 bottle of beer , consume 3/4. Put bottle top dead centre of sunroof. Observe results. Is the beer level in the bottle? For best results this should be done at least 12 times. Then, and only after then ,you will be confident in the level of your car.
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Alex, pull the center caps and string from the center of the rear axle to the center of the front stub, any other way will just tell you if the body is level at that time. That's assuming that front and rear wheels and tires are the same diameter.
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Way back in high scool, I worked with a swimming pool tiler one holidays. To get the level around the pool for starting the first course of tiles, he didn't have to fill the pool with water, but used that principle: get a long length of clear plastic hose and fill it with water, but leave a foot or two at each end unfilled. Then, you can determine the same height around the car by comparing the two water levels held at different points... So for eg, you hold the end of the water level you've made at the top of a wheel rim, then check at another wheel where the level comes to rest. The water will obviously always find level, and by comparing those two levels against a similar point, eg the ends of the protector strips along the body, you can see whether the car is level.

The big advantage to this sytem, is that you can test across the car, as well as along the car (obviously the hose has to run along the ground, with the two ends held higher all the time, so the water doesn't run out)

But the even bigger advantage, is that you can test diagonally across the car as well!

The disadvantage is that two people are needed; one at each hose end. But, a child can learn to do this easily...

Have fun...

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Awesome suggestion, Phill!
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Originally Posted by mpesik
Take 1 bottle of beer , consume 3/4. Put bottle top dead centre of sunroof. Observe results. Is the beer level in the bottle? For best results this should be done at least 12 times. Then, and only after then ,you will be confident in the level of your car.
That's old school. Shots of Tequila work best


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