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Old 09-22-2024 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin in Atlanta
Have we discussed the o2 sensor?
O2 sensor is less than a year old.
Old 09-22-2024 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by FredR
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1. Before removing the pump/strainer ensure the clamp is fitted as described below if possible or ins ome kind of fashion if this is not possible [mine had already slipped when trying to remove the pump even though it had been released a year earlier].
2. If the insert has slipped before fitting the clamp- no problem- fit and then tighten the clamp as described herein and my 4 years operational experience is that such will hold the insert enough to enable release of the kit. No need for more invasive procedures.
3. The insert in the tank is poorly retained by original design so easy for it to turn on aged tanks.
4. The insert does not seal fuel from leaking- the axial thrust pressure of the O-ring against the tank lip does that and the lip must be in good condition.
5. The intent of this mod is to simply secure the insert tighter within the boss by applying external compressive stress by means of the newly introduced outer clamp.
6. First step is to remove casting flashes on the tank boss such that shims can be made to sit on the boss. i made the shims from old jubilee clip stainless straps cut to encapsulate about 300 degrees of the circumference. I used three shims to get sufficient height on the jubilee clip to ensure that the clip sits on the shims and nowhere on the tank boss. If the jubilee clip underside touches the tank boss it will skew the clip when tightening.
7. This mod is best done with the tank out of the chassis but it can be done in-situ with care. The trickiest bit is easing away the plastic of the tank boss where the jubilee clip base is intended to sit.
8. When the kit is ready to install note the position of the insert and index mark to indicate depth and clock position- tighten and release the strainer/pump in progressive steps of half, three quarters and full torque releasing after each step and inspect to indicate no movement. Before the final step heat the boss sensibly with a heat gun and quickly tighten to full torque. Release, check and then final fit.
9 After filling with fuel immediately check for any signs of leakage and then after 1 week and then 1 month.


Initial problem

Insert pushed back into place

Clamp with shims inserted under clamp

As completed with new in-tank strainer from Roger replacing in-tank pump
Thank you Fred. I’ve got about 1/2 tank of gas I’ve got to purge first.
Old 09-22-2024 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by awilli6
Thank you Fred. I’ve got about 1/2 tank of gas I’ve got to purge first.
I undo the delivery hose in the passenger side rear arch after removing the cover and drain into my jerry can using the fuel pump to evacuate when the level is down to about 20 litres or multiple drains if I have somewhere [wife's car or my Cayenne turbo S] to dump the fuel in.
Old 09-25-2024 | 05:34 PM
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Is it possible that my timing jumped? I’m looking for why the backfire and the plugs/wires are fairly new.
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I may have missed it, but have you checked your relays?
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I just checked 928 Specialists 89 fuse relay chart and it has an ingition overheat relay.

I also found this in a related search.

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...ing-relay.html
Old 09-26-2024 | 12:01 PM
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if your getting a backfire then you probably have the ignition wires crossed,
its pretty easy to do
Old 09-26-2024 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Popo928
I just checked 928 Specialists 89 fuse relay chart and it has an ingition overheat relay.

I also found this in a related search.

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...ing-relay.html
I've checked the overheat relay and even added the bypass. Still no joy.
Old 09-26-2024 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmerlin
if your getting a backfire then you probably have the ignition wires crossed,
its pretty easy to do
It just started the backfire. It was idling poorly even when it warmed up prior to pulling the intake off and checking the hoses for cracks. After I put the intake back on, it now smoothes out at idle once it warms up. The throttle is even responsive but it backfires after giving it gas.

I checked the plugs earlier in this saga but only removed one at a time and replaced them immediately. Prior to hitting the pothole, it didn't backfire. I'll re-check the wires
Old 09-26-2024 | 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Popo928
I just checked 928 Specialists 89 fuse relay chart and it has an ingition overheat relay.

I also found this in a related search.

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...ing-relay.html
I'll get under it tomorrow and check the exhaust sensors. Arer the sensors still available?
Old 09-27-2024 | 01:44 AM
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for the exhaust sensors, its usually the connectors that are dirty,
spray them with deoxit 100 first then wait for 24
Old 09-27-2024 | 09:07 AM
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If your problem was one of those relays then you would presumably have either 8 cylinders running or 4 cylinders running if one of the two were down.

I would think you would know when 4 cylinders were down but by all means eliminate everything you can from the .invstigation

With one injector down the motor feels rather sick or at least that was my experience on such.
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Originally Posted by awilli6
It just started the backfire. It was idling poorly even when it warmed up prior to pulling the intake off and checking the hoses for cracks. After I put the intake back on, it now smoothes out at idle once it warms up. The throttle is even responsive but it backfires after giving it gas.
As I mentioned earlier, my car backfired and ran rough because a vacuum-plug fell off the throttle body, so it was due to a lean condition and backfired when I gave it gas.

You said you were going to run another smoke test, but never reported back if you did. You removed the intake, but doing that wouldn't reveal, for example, if your throttle plate bearings/seals were leaking.

Do you have access to an air/fuel meter so you can see how the engine is running?

Were you able to borrow/replace the following with known good ones?

MAF
LH computer
EZK computer

Old 09-27-2024 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SwayBar
As I mentioned earlier, my car backfired and ran rough because a vacuum-plug fell off the throttle body, so it was due to a lean condition and backfired when I gave it gas.

You said you were going to run another smoke test, but never reported back if you did. You removed the intake, but doing that wouldn't reveal, for example, if your throttle plate bearings/seals were leaking.

Do you have access to an air/fuel meter so you can see how the engine is running?

Were you able to borrow/replace the following with known good ones?

MAF
LH computer
EZK computer
I had all three checked and they tested good. (Roger’s guy in Texas). I didn’t see any smoke exiting when I repeated the smoke test. I don’t have an air/fuel meter.
Old 10-02-2024 | 08:43 PM
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Tapping out and tagging in a pro. I’m going to trailer the car to Wikki in Nashville. Thanks for all of the assistance
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