Need help for vems installation and programmation
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Need help for vems installation and programmation
Hello,i am max,french,and i am putting an ecu vems pnp with vag cop by peep
i put the ecu and wiring on my car and i have some problems....
First i show you m'y wiring and kit i receve
i put the ecu and wiring on my car and i have some problems....
First i show you m'y wiring and kit i receve
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When i put my multimètre on my cops plugs i have:
+12v ok
Grounds ok
But non signal and finally no spark...
Can you help me on this first point please?
If vems owners Can help me with some pictures of cop installation ,or with informations,it will be cool!!!
+12v ok
Grounds ok
But non signal and finally no spark...
Can you help me on this first point please?
If vems owners Can help me with some pictures of cop installation ,or with informations,it will be cool!!!
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I've never seen a 928 kit, very cool. Nice work with the intake pipe too 
For your COPs, have you tried setting "testing mode" (in your screenshot of the Ignition Outputs menu) to "ON", and then clicking the test buttons?
You should have the spark plugs in the COP, but not in the engine (of course), and the wiring otherwise assembled. With the plugs not firing, I assume the signal line would sit around +12v, but I am not familiar with those COPs specifically.
Also be aware the paired output will fire at the same time!
Edit: hang on, your harness is not wired for COP. Just pin 36 is connected, this looks like a distributor config? You will need to add the COP connectors to the EC36 connector!
For your COPs, have you tried setting "testing mode" (in your screenshot of the Ignition Outputs menu) to "ON", and then clicking the test buttons?
You should have the spark plugs in the COP, but not in the engine (of course), and the wiring otherwise assembled. With the plugs not firing, I assume the signal line would sit around +12v, but I am not familiar with those COPs specifically.
Also be aware the paired output will fire at the same time!
Edit: hang on, your harness is not wired for COP. Just pin 36 is connected, this looks like a distributor config? You will need to add the COP connectors to the EC36 connector!
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Je n'ai jamais vu de kit 928, très cool. Beau travail avec le tuyau d'admission également.
Pour vos COP, avez-vous essayé de régler le "mode test" (dans votre capture d'écran du menu Sorties d'allumage) sur "ON", puis de cliquer sur les boutons de test ?
Vous devriez avoir les bougies d'allumage dans le COP, mais pas dans le moteur (bien sûr), et le câblage autrement assemblé. Avec les fiches qui ne fonctionnent pas, je suppose que la ligne de signal se situerait autour de +12 V, mais je ne connais pas spécifiquement ces COP.
Sachez également que la sortie couplée se déclenchera en même temps !
Edit : attendez, votre faisceau n'est pas câblé pour le COP. Seule la broche 36 est connectée, cela ressemble à une configuration de distributeur ? Vous devrez ajouter les connecteurs COP au connecteur EC36 !
Pour vos COP, avez-vous essayé de régler le "mode test" (dans votre capture d'écran du menu Sorties d'allumage) sur "ON", puis de cliquer sur les boutons de test ?
Vous devriez avoir les bougies d'allumage dans le COP, mais pas dans le moteur (bien sûr), et le câblage autrement assemblé. Avec les fiches qui ne fonctionnent pas, je suppose que la ligne de signal se situerait autour de +12 V, mais je ne connais pas spécifiquement ces COP.
Sachez également que la sortie couplée se déclenchera en même temps !
Edit : attendez, votre faisceau n'est pas câblé pour le COP. Seule la broche 36 est connectée, cela ressemble à une configuration de distributeur ? Vous devrez ajouter les connecteurs COP au connecteur EC36 !
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Yes, you'll need to ask Peep for instructions on assembling it into the harness. You'll need to run the wires thru the firewall to where VEMS is, obviously.
If you still have the distributor set up, it may be simpler to get things running with just that, and move to COP later once you're more accustomed to VEMS/Vemstune!
If you still have the distributor set up, it may be simpler to get things running with just that, and move to COP later once you're more accustomed to VEMS/Vemstune!
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Yes, you'll need to ask Peep for instructions on assembling it into the harness. You'll need to run the wires thru the firewall to where VEMS is, obviously.
If you still have the distributor set up, it may be simpler to get things running with just that, and move to COP later once you're more accustomed to VEMS/Vemstune!
If you still have the distributor set up, it may be simpler to get things running with just that, and move to COP later once you're more accustomed to VEMS/Vemstune!
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I think if you ask specific questions he is pretty helpful, but he can take some time to respond.
Without his input, I'd suggest using a multimeter to figure out what the COP harness pins go to - which coil to which wire. Take the info in your screenshot of "Ignition Outputs" and populate the EC36 header accordingly (removing the purple wire currently in position 36). I assume you've already connected the power/ground for the COP harness (probably get +12v from original coil, ground from elsewhere!)
For depinning, follow vaguely this:
but be aware that you need to remove the white plate covering the connector first. I used
, but it seems out of stock at least in the US. Probably easier to find AMP/TE tools in Europe
Without his input, I'd suggest using a multimeter to figure out what the COP harness pins go to - which coil to which wire. Take the info in your screenshot of "Ignition Outputs" and populate the EC36 header accordingly (removing the purple wire currently in position 36). I assume you've already connected the power/ground for the COP harness (probably get +12v from original coil, ground from elsewhere!)
For depinning, follow vaguely this:
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I think if you ask specific questions he is pretty helpful, but he can take some time to respond.
Without his input, I'd suggest using a multimeter to figure out what the COP harness pins go to - which coil to which wire. Take the info in your screenshot of "Ignition Outputs" and populate the EC36 header accordingly (removing the purple wire currently in position 36). I assume you've already connected the power/ground for the COP harness (probably get +12v from original coil, ground from elsewhere!)
For depinning, follow vaguely this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXhHGQhsHDs but be aware that you need to remove the white plate covering the connector first. I used this, but it seems out of stock at least in the US. Probably easier to find AMP/TE tools in Europe
Without his input, I'd suggest using a multimeter to figure out what the COP harness pins go to - which coil to which wire. Take the info in your screenshot of "Ignition Outputs" and populate the EC36 header accordingly (removing the purple wire currently in position 36). I assume you've already connected the power/ground for the COP harness (probably get +12v from original coil, ground from elsewhere!)
For depinning, follow vaguely this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXhHGQhsHDs but be aware that you need to remove the white plate covering the connector first. I used this, but it seems out of stock at least in the US. Probably easier to find AMP/TE tools in Europe
I put a permanent 12v for tests, original coils + IS switched by modules....
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Sorry, not sure I follow. You did modify the EC36 connector to include all 8 of those COP wires?
It should also be possible to put an ohmmeter between say, EC36 pin 35 and ground, hit "test" on either of the "0+1" outputs and see the resistance near 0.
It should also be possible to put an ohmmeter between say, EC36 pin 35 and ground, hit "test" on either of the "0+1" outputs and see the resistance near 0.
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After Many vérifications,i have no ground câble on pin17 ec18.....IS it the problem?i think is not good....
