Input from the Pasha Gods
#31
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I think I was following until you said "Both leathers would match the inserts".
Unless your new interior is going to have custom stitch patterns (which can be very cool), then you have to think about transitions among the interior components. What I have observed over time as matching in color:
A. dash, A-pillars, door arm rests, center console, and most times the pod
B. seat leather and Door upper panels
C. Door insert and door upper panel
D. Seat middle cushions and Door inserts
E. Carpet and Door bottom panel (also carpet).
What I have seen as interesting color breaks are:
Dash Pod
Carpet
Entire Seat
Door inserts
Seat inserts
I think the headliner is visually quite separate from the rest of the interior, so you could probably get away with doing almost anything with it (I hear it is difficult to install however).
Here are some 928 two tone interiors:
^^^^^ 1. Black and Red ^^^^^
^^^^^ 2. Brochure Two Tone ^^^^^
^^^^^ 3. Light with Brown Two-tone ^^^^^
^^^^^ 4. Black or Dark Brown and probably Beige Two-tone ^^^^^
^^^^^ 5a & b White and Red Two-tone ^^^^^
^^^^^ 6. Black and Beige and ?Tan (Three-tone) ^^^^^
^^^^^ 7. Brown and ?Tan with Black Pod ^^^^^
Unless your new interior is going to have custom stitch patterns (which can be very cool), then you have to think about transitions among the interior components. What I have observed over time as matching in color:
A. dash, A-pillars, door arm rests, center console, and most times the pod
B. seat leather and Door upper panels
C. Door insert and door upper panel
D. Seat middle cushions and Door inserts
E. Carpet and Door bottom panel (also carpet).
What I have seen as interesting color breaks are:
Dash Pod
Carpet
Entire Seat
Door inserts
Seat inserts
I think the headliner is visually quite separate from the rest of the interior, so you could probably get away with doing almost anything with it (I hear it is difficult to install however).
Here are some 928 two tone interiors:
^^^^^ 1. Black and Red ^^^^^
^^^^^ 2. Brochure Two Tone ^^^^^
^^^^^ 3. Light with Brown Two-tone ^^^^^
^^^^^ 4. Black or Dark Brown and probably Beige Two-tone ^^^^^
^^^^^ 5a & b White and Red Two-tone ^^^^^
^^^^^ 6. Black and Beige and ?Tan (Three-tone) ^^^^^
^^^^^ 7. Brown and ?Tan with Black Pod ^^^^^
Last edited by hernanca; 04-10-2023 at 11:33 PM. Reason: Numb'd the Pitchers
#32
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above is close to what I was thinking except the door pillars and headliner would match the seat leather. I have a piece of fabric that would match a medium-dark brown and also cork. I was trying to to envision..medium=brow leather for the seats, door panels, a- pillars and headliner/sail panel etc. The fabric would be seat insert, door insert and under-glove box ray. Last, cork would be used for the dash, door panel arm rest and center console. To invision cork in this color car, take a look at the BJ auction of the “risky business” 928.
#33
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Door pillars
So, let's get clarification on what we mean by "door pillars". If you look closely, there are two components we might be referring to:
A. The DOOR interior trim above and to the sides of the SIDE window.
B. The car BODY interior trim on the A-pillar which runs up along the FRONT window.
When the door is open, A is obvious, but when the door is closed, A is partially obscured by B.
Also Note that B is what is next to the headliner.
If you look closely at that picture that is close to what you were thinking, A is already the same color as the seat leather, but B is not.
Personal preference: I like the shape that is created when B is the same color as the door armrest. It reminds me of this door shape (1970 Bertone Lancia Stratos) :
A. The DOOR interior trim above and to the sides of the SIDE window.
B. The car BODY interior trim on the A-pillar which runs up along the FRONT window.
When the door is open, A is obvious, but when the door is closed, A is partially obscured by B.
Also Note that B is what is next to the headliner.
If you look closely at that picture that is close to what you were thinking, A is already the same color as the seat leather, but B is not.
Personal preference: I like the shape that is created when B is the same color as the door armrest. It reminds me of this door shape (1970 Bertone Lancia Stratos) :
Last edited by hernanca; 04-06-2023 at 11:34 AM.
#34
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So, let's get clarification on what we mean by "door pillars". If you look closely, there are two components we might be referring to:
A. The DOOR interior trim above and to the sides of the SIDE window.
B. The car BODY interior trim on the A-pillar which runs up along the FRONT window.
When the door is open, A is obvious, but when the door is closed, A is partially obscured by B.
Also Note that B is what is next to the headliner.
If you look closely at that picture that is close to what you were thinking, A is already the same color as the seat leather, but B is not.
Personal preference: I like the shape that is created when B is the same color as the door armrest. It reminds me of this door shape (1970 Bertone Lancia Stratos) :
A. The DOOR interior trim above and to the sides of the SIDE window.
B. The car BODY interior trim on the A-pillar which runs up along the FRONT window.
When the door is open, A is obvious, but when the door is closed, A is partially obscured by B.
Also Note that B is what is next to the headliner.
If you look closely at that picture that is close to what you were thinking, A is already the same color as the seat leather, but B is not.
Personal preference: I like the shape that is created when B is the same color as the door armrest. It reminds me of this door shape (1970 Bertone Lancia Stratos) :
#35
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Ah...Thank you. What I was thinking was both A-pillar and door interior trim to be seat leather color. However, it might be kind of striking to have the door interior trim to be cork as well?? Thank you for bearing with me as I wrap my head around all the design options. Its a big investment for me and I don't want it to look bad once completed. I think most everyone else has lost interest of my "beating a dead horse".
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#37
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You're right about this, I'm also having a hard time finding any pictures of gold with cork and pasha. I did find pictures of two nice outer colours that breaks off against the cork interior. Blue is obvious but the green goes more towards a lighter colour like your gold...
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#39
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I have to admit I am not as familiar with the cork and tan/brown 928 interior colors. Now I see what the cork you are thinking of looks like (Risky Business 928). Which pictures best show the medium brown you are considering? And do you also have a picture of that piece of fabric which could match both the cork and medium brown?
One thought: if one of those colors (Cork vs Med. Brown) is noticeably darker than the other, then, to me anyway, that darker color would appear "heavier" and so I believe, in general, the darker color would look better on lower vs. higher sections.
You seem to be specifying specific colors (Cork abd Medium Brown) and specific configurations (headliner matching A pillar trim; A pillar trim color differing from Dash color; Seat bolsters matching door upper panel, etc.), and there is nothing wrong with that, of course. The challenge, I believe, is making these work together, since I don't believe they have all been put together before. For each of these color and configuration requirements, I would ask:
And even after you do all that and come up with a final solution or three, I would mock up any solution as close to what it will look like as possible, in case you have created some unintended effect with that solution! At home, I designed what I thought might be a cool sci-fi looking shop bathroom floor: marble octagons with metal flake grout. I didn't have time to mock it up. The result? A chicken-wire floor! Unexpected and nowhere near my intended effect!
I hope this helps!
One thought: if one of those colors (Cork vs Med. Brown) is noticeably darker than the other, then, to me anyway, that darker color would appear "heavier" and so I believe, in general, the darker color would look better on lower vs. higher sections.
You seem to be specifying specific colors (Cork abd Medium Brown) and specific configurations (headliner matching A pillar trim; A pillar trim color differing from Dash color; Seat bolsters matching door upper panel, etc.), and there is nothing wrong with that, of course. The challenge, I believe, is making these work together, since I don't believe they have all been put together before. For each of these color and configuration requirements, I would ask:
- Is the requirement a constraint or a personal preference?(constraints tend to be less flexible requirements compared to personal preference)
- How important is the requirement (ranked) compared to the others?
- Is there any time flexibility on the requirement (that is, could it be met later)?
And even after you do all that and come up with a final solution or three, I would mock up any solution as close to what it will look like as possible, in case you have created some unintended effect with that solution! At home, I designed what I thought might be a cool sci-fi looking shop bathroom floor: marble octagons with metal flake grout. I didn't have time to mock it up. The result? A chicken-wire floor! Unexpected and nowhere near my intended effect!
I hope this helps!
#40
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I have to admit I am not as familiar with the cork and tan/brown 928 interior colors. Now I see what the cork you are thinking of looks like (Risky Business 928). Which pictures best show the medium brown you are considering? And do you also have a picture of that piece of fabric which could match both the cork and medium brown?
One thought: if one of those colors (Cork vs Med. Brown) is noticeably darker than the other, then, to me anyway, that darker color would appear "heavier" and so I believe, in general, the darker color would look better on lower vs. higher sections.
You seem to be specifying specific colors (Cork abd Medium Brown) and specific configurations (headliner matching A pillar trim; A pillar trim color differing from Dash color; Seat bolsters matching door upper panel, etc.), and there is nothing wrong with that, of course. The challenge, I believe, is making these work together, since I don't believe they have all been put together before. For each of these color and configuration requirements, I would ask:
And even after you do all that and come up with a final solution or three, I would mock up any solution as close to what it will look like as possible, in case you have created some unintended effect with that solution! At home, I designed what I thought might be a cool sci-fi looking shop bathroom floor: marble octagons with metal flake grout. I didn't have time to mock it up. The result? A chicken-wire floor! Unexpected and nowhere near my intended effect!
I hope this helps!
One thought: if one of those colors (Cork vs Med. Brown) is noticeably darker than the other, then, to me anyway, that darker color would appear "heavier" and so I believe, in general, the darker color would look better on lower vs. higher sections.
You seem to be specifying specific colors (Cork abd Medium Brown) and specific configurations (headliner matching A pillar trim; A pillar trim color differing from Dash color; Seat bolsters matching door upper panel, etc.), and there is nothing wrong with that, of course. The challenge, I believe, is making these work together, since I don't believe they have all been put together before. For each of these color and configuration requirements, I would ask:
- Is the requirement a constraint or a personal preference?(constraints tend to be less flexible requirements compared to personal preference)
- How important is the requirement (ranked) compared to the others?
- Is there any time flexibility on the requirement (that is, could it be met later)?
And even after you do all that and come up with a final solution or three, I would mock up any solution as close to what it will look like as possible, in case you have created some unintended effect with that solution! At home, I designed what I thought might be a cool sci-fi looking shop bathroom floor: marble octagons with metal flake grout. I didn't have time to mock it up. The result? A chicken-wire floor! Unexpected and nowhere near my intended effect!
I hope this helps!
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#41
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I love cork and pasha (in general) but was concerned that it wouldn’t work for my exterior and had difficulty finding pics of cork with gold. So up until now, I was trying to find a compromise or find something I would be happy with in the absence of cork…similar to what @Guy and @Ghosteh recommended.
- Limit the variety of colors to two or three
- Colors can vary in three dimensions to make them "different" colors: hue (the common color names: blue, red, green, etc.); shade (how dark or light), and saturation (how much gray). (Note: this is purposefully oversimplified.)
- When choosing different colors to work with, the colors should be made different by sufficientt variations in only one or two dimensions (Edit: corrected rule)
- It is more important to vary your colors by shade than by hue, because this is what we find in nature. For example, choosing two colors to work with as being dark brown and light brown (different lighting of same brown in nature) vs. choosing the two colors to work with as brown and cork.
Some of us are good with graphics programs. If you take a picture of a small swatch with the rest of the component you want to cover in it (oriented correctly), someone could modify the picture to kind of show how that would expand. It won't be perfect due to lighting, but it could give you an idea. You could also order just a yard of material so you can get a better idea.
- With the cork leather I would consider the black/tan Pasha vs. introducing white as a new color. Some might say the tan looks "faded" but in the context of your exterior, I believe it would instead tie in the hellbronze. An example done back in 2009 is at the top of this thread: new pacha pasha pascha and cork vinyl seat pix
- With the light brown leather, that sounds like a good choice (again, mock up, mock up, mock up!)
Carpet color is a good question. I noticed that all the pictures I found had darker carpet under the cork EXCEPT, interestingly, the '82 Weissach edition!
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Last edited by hernanca; 04-10-2023 at 11:41 PM. Reason: Wong Rule
#42
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I guess I only have minimal comments to add and I don't think you are beating a deadhorse. Also, I have been posting elsewhere the last couple years. But, when I bought my 91 GT the idea was kind of to make it a kind of Pasha tribute car on the interior. I spent a great deal of time thinking about the topic. However, I ended up not doing it because (a) the newer style seats don't work so well with Pasha I find (2) after just some conditioner the seats turned to be in near perfect shape... (3) there is a certain respectability nowadays in doing things that Porsche would have done too to keep the character somehow authentic.
I would caution you to not just go with the Pasha with the most punch. Pasha is cool if not highly contrasty! So, anyway the middle picture in your post is exactly what I had been thinking to recommend and you beat me to it:
But good luck with the project anyway you go!
I would caution you to not just go with the Pasha with the most punch. Pasha is cool if not highly contrasty! So, anyway the middle picture in your post is exactly what I had been thinking to recommend and you beat me to it:
But good luck with the project anyway you go!
Last edited by Red Flash; 04-10-2023 at 06:00 PM.
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#44
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Anybody have thoughts/recommendations for what specific color carpet to use with cork leather interior? Black, cork, ??
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