Clutch development, invitation for collaboration
#31
Burning Brakes
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To all 928 clutch developers:
I think this is your target...make a clutch/flywheel/T/O bearing/T/O bearing mount/input shaft/all associated hardware, clutch lines, etc. that is butter smooth, bulletproof, holds over 800ft.lbs., and cheaper.
Let me know if you need any help.
Always will to lend a hand.
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I think this is your target...make a clutch/flywheel/T/O bearing/T/O bearing mount/input shaft/all associated hardware, clutch lines, etc. that is butter smooth, bulletproof, holds over 800ft.lbs., and cheaper.
Let me know if you need any help.
Always will to lend a hand.
.
For example, if someone had the goal of a low cost, low effort super smooth OE quality clutch experience that only needs to hold 250hp then they could choose a stock RX7 pressure plate and stock disc. If someone wanted a 1000 HP multi-plate solution, the same base parts could be utilized, perhaps. Don't know for sure at this point but that the goal, to create a framework, or platform for innovation. The framework being the confines of RX7/8 parts which are readily available, highly developed and the knowledge sharing related to those parts. Those who like to experiment, develop and tinker might find this enjoyable. Those that want a set of parts in a box will need to look elsewhere.
If ya' really want to help, check the list of items I need in the prior post. (#29)
Last edited by icsamerica; 02-03-2023 at 06:11 PM.
#32
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That is not my target. The goal is to set forth a few key solutions, make them open source, and if someone wanted to use a specific RX7 pressure plate and specific RX8 clutch disk to achieve their specific goal they could choose accordingly. This is for the mechanically inclined, there isn't going to be a box it all comes in, at least not from me.
For example, if someone had the goal of a low cost, low effort super smooth OE quality clutch experience that only needs to hold 250hp then they could choose a stock RX7 pressure plate and stock disc On what flywheel (which was the difficult task that I faced, while still being able to integrate the "counting ring" for the injection and the starter ring gear....for any alternative clutch I could find. The Mazda stuff appears to be made for a stepped flywheel, while all of the Porsche flywheels are flat, with the starter ring gear attached to the intermediate plate/pressure plate. If some wanted a 1000 HP multi-plate solution, the same base parts could be utilized, perhaps. Don't know for sure at this point but that the goal, to create a framework, or platform for innovation. The framework being the confines of RX7/8 parts which are readily available, highly developed and the knowledge sharing. Those who like to experiment, develop and tinker might find this enjoyable. Those that want a set of parts in a box will need to look elsewhere.
If ya' really want to help, check the list of items I need in the prior post. (#29)
For example, if someone had the goal of a low cost, low effort super smooth OE quality clutch experience that only needs to hold 250hp then they could choose a stock RX7 pressure plate and stock disc On what flywheel (which was the difficult task that I faced, while still being able to integrate the "counting ring" for the injection and the starter ring gear....for any alternative clutch I could find. The Mazda stuff appears to be made for a stepped flywheel, while all of the Porsche flywheels are flat, with the starter ring gear attached to the intermediate plate/pressure plate. If some wanted a 1000 HP multi-plate solution, the same base parts could be utilized, perhaps. Don't know for sure at this point but that the goal, to create a framework, or platform for innovation. The framework being the confines of RX7/8 parts which are readily available, highly developed and the knowledge sharing. Those who like to experiment, develop and tinker might find this enjoyable. Those that want a set of parts in a box will need to look elsewhere.
If ya' really want to help, check the list of items I need in the prior post. (#29)
I'll simply "bow out" of this thread and you can proceed, as you please.
If you have any questions, you can reach me through a PM.
Best wishes, for success!
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#33
Burning Brakes
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I'll keep it easier, since you have obviously been "irritated" by my knowledge and advice, in several previous posts.
I'll simply "bow out" of this thread and you can proceed, as you please.
If you have any questions, you can reach me through a PM.
Best wishes, for success!
I'll simply "bow out" of this thread and you can proceed, as you please.
If you have any questions, you can reach me through a PM.
Best wishes, for success!
I don't really see the trigger wheel as a big deal based on my previous experience. I've made trigger wheels for all sorts of projects including crank trigger based ignition system for engines that ever had them, I've put ABS on cars that never had it by making or repossessing existing trigger wheels. I get out the scope, press record, look at the wave form on the OE product and mimic it with the simplest part that will produce the same result. What is a problem for one person many be nothing more than a minor challenge for another. . There are other areas of this task like making a flywheel where I have ZERO proficency but may be nothing more than a phone call to the right person for someone in the know. This is how collaboration can produce exponential results and I hope the same will open a few doors for the 928
A low cost clutch option may keep an early marginal car out of the crusher, might make a DE car lower cost to operate and easier to service in a pinch, and may provide a slick option for a high HP money no object project. When parts and solutions are known and available, magic happens.
Last edited by icsamerica; 02-03-2023 at 06:47 PM.