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Welcome to the 928 world!! Hope this doesn't mean the 924 is leaving!
I am curious if this car was built for "tourist delivery". If the factory was aware of the eventual exportation, they may have built this as a US spec car.
Either way, good luck with the car. Looks like a great OB
Welcome to the 928 world!! Hope this doesn't mean the 924 is leaving!
I am curious if this car was built for "tourist delivery". If the factory was aware of the eventual exportation, they may have built this as a US spec car.
Either way, good luck with the car. Looks like a great OB
Originally Posted by 928cs
Is there a number written under the passenger side shelf; like 120 ???? ?
The M471 will never be leaving my care most likely, my goal is to hit a million miles with it! Currently at 111k.
If you mean under the parcel shelf/glovebox area, yes, it looks like it says '2006'.
Going to be checking the engine bay for that fourth vin location, and checking the bumperettes/turn signal housing.
Here's the vin stamping in the engine bay - almost illegible, but it reads 810012.
Here's the turn signal housing and bumperette backing. Still looks like a US spec car to me...
I'll search through the paperwork today, I didn't see anything that looked like it said Fahrzeugbrief, as there's few documents from when it was in Germany, but hopefully I'll get lucky.
My 85 S was also an GI car and hasn't a "Fahrzeugbrief"!
Until the end of 2005, members of the U.S. Armed Forces who performed their military service in Germany had their vehicle license plates issued by a U.S. authority. In accordance with the international agreement, these vehicles had to bear the license plate "USA" (before 1962 also "United States of America" or "US Forces in Germany") on the rear of the vehicle.
Since 2000: More inconspicuous license plates
Due to security concerns on the part of the Americans, license plates with a more inconspicuous appearance and modeled on the EU plates have been used since 2000 with the approval of the German government. The combinations AD (in the normal license plate size) and AF (for smaller license plates) were used as the "registration district", since these were the first free two-digit abbreviations in the alphabet.
It was soon realized, however, that the abbreviation AF could easily be used to refer to "American Forces" or "Air Force". As a result, the letter combination AF was no longer assigned, but instead the abbreviation HK. The various abbreviations were assigned to private vehicles of the U.S. Armed Forces in Germany. For service-licensed vehicles, the combination IF was used.
Nevertheless, the US vehicles were still easily identifiable as such, due to the smaller version of the license plates.
Corresponding license plate sizes were otherwise only used in Germany for agricultural vehicles and mopeds. Only in exceptional cases were smaller license plates also assigned to passenger vehicles that did not offer enough space for the standard plate size.
In addition, many private vehicles of members of the American armed forces could be spotted from afar due to their unusual equipment and appearance by German standards.
Since 2006: German license plates
Since December 2005, all registrations to be renewed have been provided with German license plates of the respective registration district in which the military base is located. When traveling to non-EU countries, D stickers are affixed to the rear of the vehicle.
In addition, on the instructions of the U.S. military authorities, features typical of U.S. vehicles, such as tinted windows or loud exhausts, must either be removed or adapted to European regulations. Otherwise, the vehicle owner faces fines from German authorities. However, many members of the U.S. armed forces are critical of this instruction, as they see it as suppressing part of American culture.
Couldn't get anything off the registry - earliest vin for MY80 is 0014.
Anyone think a COA will have any value with this car? I know they've been getting worse about the info they give.
Also, while I can't find a Fahrzeugbrief, there's a lot of registration forms from when it was in the US. Always registered under military reg and insurance, then veteran's insurance and registration until the owner's death.
Here's the vin stamping in the engine bay - almost illegible, but it reads 810012.
Here's the turn signal housing and bumperette backing. Still looks like a US spec car to me...
I'll search through the paperwork today, I didn't see anything that looked like it said Fahrzeugbrief, as there's few documents from when it was in Germany, but hopefully I'll get lucky.
That is a very North -American delivery looking quarter panel. Strange.
But it is a US/Can 1980 928, from the VIN, except the second one and it was produced for the factory as a preproduction one. And later sold to a GI.
The VIN plate in the engine bay is a requirement for most countries in Europe, so was installed from new, to register the car for the Porsche AG.
Any indication of the original registration, like BB-PW ??? (if registered in Weissach), S-???? (if registered in Stuttgart) or LB-???? (if registered in Ludwigsburg) into the papers?
It may appears into commercial documents for the 1980 or 1981 MY.
But it is a US/Can 1980 928, from the VIN, except the second one and it was produced for the factory as a preproduction one. And later sold to a GI.
The VIN plate in the engine bay is a requirement for most countries in Europe, so was installed from new, to register the car for the Porsche AG.
Any indication of the original registration, like BB-PW ??? (if registered in Weissach), S-???? (if registered in Stuttgart) or LB-???? (if registered in Ludwigsburg) into the papers?
It may appears into commercial documents for the 1980 or 1981 MY.
That make sense....and, this would have been the second L-jet 928. I can see the factory wanting to pound a few of these around for a while.
Found the car's registration from Germany.
Sadly this is the only document like this - the rest are ALL service documents from 1983 - 2022.
Another interesting thing of note - The name here doesn't align with the man who ordered the car, Byron Scogins. I found in the paperwork his daughter, Donna sold the car in 2020 after his passing for 4,000 dollars. It seems as Byron got older he found himself unable to care for the 928 in the same way he had, which is incredibly diligently. He was putting miles on it up until his demise, and was putting thousands into service yearly.
12-08-2022, 10:32 AM
