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Old 10-22-2022 | 01:20 PM
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If the motor mounts failed then the engine could have dropped down this could cause the harness to short out possibly on the belly pan
Old 10-24-2022 | 10:45 AM
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So RMS is pristine. Front of engine is soaked. Still not sure where the leak is. The fire does not appeal to be an electrical spark. Pretty sure oil pooled on the belly pan and ignited from the exhaust system. All wires are wrapped and appear to be in good shape.

Hoping it is an oil cooler hose, but fear it may be one of the seals on the front end. By the looks of the front cover, May have been leaking prior.

well going to do a front end rebuild. Was over due, obviously. Just hope the bearings are not shot

can I drop the oil pan and replace the. Bearings from the underside. Or will that require an engine pull??








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Old 10-24-2022 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by drwhosc
So RMS is pristine. Front of engine is soaked. Still not sure where the leak is. The fire does not appeal to be an electrical spark. Pretty sure oil pooled on the belly pan and ignited from the exhaust system. All wires are wrapped and appear to be in good shape.

Hoping it is an oil cooler hose, but fear it may be one of the seals on the front end. By the looks of the front cover, May have been leaking prior.

well going to do a front end rebuild. Was over due, obviously. Just hope the bearings are not shot

can I drop the oil pan and replace the. Bearings from the underside. Or will that require an engine pull??
Yes you can drop the oil pan to replace the rod end bearings.
Old 10-24-2022 | 02:30 PM
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NOTE from everything that has been presented,
I would suggest that you set up an appointment with a 928 specialist,
and let them inspect and fix this car properly.

It appears that a proper inspection and repair cycle is long past due.

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Old 10-24-2022 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by drwhosc
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The fire was interesting. Basically the oil pooled on the air dam, and did catch fire. when I pulled over, the smoke was coming out of the engine bay. popped the hood, and sure enough, there was a fire at the bottom of the engine. SO I go and get my fire extinguisher, pull the pin, and it fails. No pressure to pus the compound out. Lesson learned. change those out periodically.

I tried to snuff it out with a rag, bit could not reach it from underneath, and i get my first look at the amount of oil, Soaked everything. I had a drink in a bottle, pour it down the side of the engine.. Fire sizzles, get smaller, but still lit. Luckily where i pulled out, there was business, and I was able to get some water back in the bottle. Took a total of three bottles to put things out. I did notice my harness to the starter is down there,. Awesome.

Lots of lessons learn, and hopefully I did not do too much harm. as I said bad day, but neglect will do that.
Give yourself some credit that was a great save. Lot of people would have totally panicked and let the car burn. I popped an old neglected oil cooler hose off at speed years ago...biggest cloud of smoke i've ever seen and a huge oil mess underneath all the way to the back bumper. Fortunately these engines hold a lot of oil it was only about 1.5 quart low.

Old 10-25-2022 | 11:52 AM
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Would be nice if I had someone around me. Been doing most of the work on the car, and been doing Ok. As much as I hate to say, I did neglect some maintenance as this car became a daily driver.

I am in Greenville SC. And closest 928 guru is probably in Atlanta about 4 hours away. I guess I can ship the car up to you in pa. I have not found this car too difficult to work on. While complex, it is laid out well. And yes I know better, they do need periodic check ins and PM done.

The car itself has had a rough life. I saved it from the scrap yard, and bought it for $1500 about 10 years ago. So it has other issues. Not sure I want to put a lot of $$ into it. It is not a pristine car.

Going to drain the coolant today and begin to teardown the front end. It would be nice to have a 928 guru close by, but I may know more than most of the local mechanics around me.

open to suggestions if folks know of a good 928 mechanic in the upstate of SC or Charlotte area. I just had a buddy bring a 356 to a guru in Atlanta and got hit with a 50k bill. So while I know good work is well worth it, Porsches are expensive to fix.

Originally Posted by Mrmerlin
NOTE from everything that has been presented,
I would suggest that you set up an appointment with a 928 specialist,
and let them inspect and fix this car properly.

It appears that a proper inspection and repair cycle is long past due.
Old 10-25-2022 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by drwhosc
Would be nice if I had someone around me. Been doing most of the work on the car, and been doing Ok. As much as I hate to say, I did neglect some maintenance as this car became a daily driver.

I am in Greenville SC. And closest 928 guru is probably in Atlanta about 4 hours away. I guess I can ship the car up to you in pa. I have not found this car too difficult to work on. While complex, it is laid out well. And yes I know better, they do need periodic check ins and PM done.

The car itself has had a rough life. I saved it from the scrap yard, and bought it for $1500 about 10 years ago. So it has other issues. Not sure I want to put a lot of $$ into it. It is not a pristine car.

Going to drain the coolant today and begin to teardown the front end. It would be nice to have a 928 guru close by, but I may know more than most of the local mechanics around me.

open to suggestions if folks know of a good 928 mechanic in the upstate of SC or Charlotte area. I just had a buddy bring a 356 to a guru in Atlanta and got hit with a 50k bill. So while I know good work is well worth it, Porsches are expensive to fix.
Frank & Bill Gerwig at ProTech Motorsports are good and know 928s pretty well. They're close to Michelin where the monthly Cars & Coffee is held. They're the only guys I have work on my Porsches when it's something I can't fix or don't have the time to.

Howard Wright at European Classics down in Atlanta is another, but think he has a multi-month backlog currently.



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